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    Quote Originally Posted by LaurelinKementari View Post
    I'm curious to see if we'll get to know more about Ratatoskr, as well as what she looked like. Given that her fate was the catalyst of all of Heavensward, we know preciously little about her aside from the fact that she was killed. (Despite which, she was actually the Great Wyrm I felt the most sympathy for, aside from Tiamat.) I'd like to know what she was like, what her personality was and her relationship with mortals.
    Her relationship with the proto-Ishgardians seems to be the closest of the three wyrms, given the reclusive nature of Hraesvelgr and the apparent mistrust of Nidhogg before the betrayal; I think her base is also the closest to the landlord colony.

    Great wyrms are also rather powerful entities, so it is highly likely that King Thordan used her trust of the mortal races to ambush her. I highly doubt that the proto-Ishgardians would have been able to subdue and devour her eyes so easily without some degree of interference from her or her brothers broods; for the betrayal to work, it would require some degree of compliance (or trust) from Ratatoskr; it is likely that they requested a secret meeting or learned from her when she would be most vulnerable, before betraying her.
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    What I don't understand is: why is there Landlord architecture on Azyz Lla? (the "Cathedral with a high-tech spearhead in it)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zohar_Lahar View Post
    What I don't understand is: why is there Landlord architecture on Azyz Lla? (the "Cathedral with a high-tech spearhead in it)
    thats a total different thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zohar_Lahar View Post
    What I don't understand is: why is there Landlord architecture on Azyz Lla? (the "Cathedral with a high-tech spearhead in it)
    For one, it could be historical, pre-technological Allagan architecture. Second, it would be impossible for it to be Landlord, as Azys Lla predates the Landlords by Eras. Lastly, it lacks key similarities to the architecture we know to be Landlord such as the very iconic dragon iconography.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zohar_Lahar View Post
    What I don't understand is: why is there Landlord architecture on Azyz Lla? (the "Cathedral with a high-tech spearhead in it)
    That's Allagan architecture. There are runes/carvings on the rocks which match up almost exactly to the runes/carvings seen throughout the Labyrinth of the Ancients and early parts of Syrcus Tower.

    Given there was a museum at Azys Lla (the Fractal Continuum), I wouldn't be surprised to see something historical to their nation as well, although given the Labyrinth of the Ancients and party of Syrcus Tower, they seemed to have a thing for stonework despite their advances. Either way that damned Cathedral shot down my theory about the Twelve, seeing as it seems to be a Cathedral in honor of Azeyma. If I had to put forward a new theory, I'd suggest that the Labyrinth of the Ancients (and this Cathedral) was "of the Ancients" even to the Allag.
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    I suppose you're right. They did look slightly similar to the Labyrinth of the Ancients when I went there last night.
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    Oh my, I had no idea that Cathedral was Allagan due to the Azyma symbols all over the place, though I guess it does makes sense due to it being in Azys Lla and the Allagan's reverence to the Sun

    I suppose pre-magitek Allagans worshipped azeyma?
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    Last edited by myahele; 07-15-2015 at 11:40 AM.

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    You guys are wrong that cathedral event if it mae from stone is a total different thing, thas nothing to do with the syrcus tower or LoA. We dont know what those ruins are but since they have have being over 5000, its clear a possible ancient civilisation even older than the allags,. But guys dont confuse yourselfs those ruins on azysla is a total diferent thing, but is clear not allag.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frederick22 View Post
    You guys are wrong that cathedral event if it mae from stone is a total different thing, thas nothing to do with the syrcus tower or LoA. We dont know what those ruins are but since they have have being over 5000, its clear a possible ancient civilisation even older than the allags,. But guys dont confuse yourselfs those ruins on azysla is a total diferent thing, but is clear not allag.
    I disagree. They seem to me to likely be their ancient, pre-future-tech architecture. It'd be nice to keep around, and moving a religious building up there would be better for morale of the scientists than building just another metallic monstrosity for people to worship inside of.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WyrahFhurrst View Post
    I disagree. They seem to me to likely be their ancient, pre-future-tech architecture. It'd be nice to keep around, and moving a religious building up there would be better for morale of the scientists than building just another metallic monstrosity for people to worship inside of.
    I kinda agree that it could be a monument of their "primitive" days prior to becoming technologically advanced. They had a museum where they displayed their past achievements. I'm pretty sure that they'd atleast preserve some of their historic buildings and display them for tourists (like we modern folks do now).

    That or it could be Meracydian in origin and we know that Miqo'te lived there prior to the 5th Astral Era and that it was the Seeker of the Sun that worshipped Azeyma
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