New crafting rotations

[Outfoxed]

Well, al the moment i'm fine and i can craft everything in Hq. Thanks for your suggestion.

My rotation (for 70durability live morel salad) is:
CZ
IQ
WN
SH2
Hasty touchx5
Manipulation
CS II
COMFORT ZONE
CSII
MASTER MEND
CSII
STEADY HAND II
HASTY TOUCHX5
Great stride and byregot blessing
CSII

Il you have suggestions to optimize it i will Thank you.
Of course i will try Nanga's rotation Thank you

i noticed you're using Masters Mend and Manipulation. That costs 180CP whereas one masters mend II costs 160 CP. try to drop those 2 and add a masters mend II . Should save you approx 20CP

my personal opening rotation for 70dur crafts is as follows:

CZ (If my alch was 50)
IQ
SHII
HTx5 (using precise touch when available)
1 CSII
Masters Mend II (gets you back to 70dur)

The reason I'm doing the above is because SHII lasts 5 steps while you have 60 dur when you can get max effect out of MMII. So I HTx5 and then CSII so I dont waste a step of SHII .

And then once I'm at 70DUR, I'll finish my craft depending on how many CSII's or RS's I need.


EDIT: Feel free to change the synths as needed depending on what you deem the best way to finish your craft. I always like to end on a CSII because it's the only 100% reliable way to finish. So right now the best way to gain large amounts of progress is through SHII+RS. If it's a craft where you can get multiple RS's off do so.

[_Kakera_]

MaM WWYW [any Good in the following steps is to be taken
CZ FS 8 times [if you take Good, replace a FS with TotT; FS is only good with MaM
-If Whistle = 9) CSII CSII Sat [take Good with TotT if Sat step and if Good on the first CSII, skip past first
*If Whistle =/= 9) skip
CZ IQ SHII [if CZ is off, fit in another whenever, not necessarily before IQ - free to take any Goods with TotT until SHII]
HT until 10 dur (if Whistle was 9) or HT until 20 (if Whistle was not 9) [replace all HTs with PT when Good / Excellent
-If dur = 10) MMII [free to take any Goods
*(If dur = 20) CSII MMII [free to take any Goods
CZ SHII HT [until around 30 dur, replace all HTs with PT when Good / Excellent
-If Whistle was 9 earlier and If Whistle > 3) NW SH GS Ing/Inn BB CSII [be mindful of Goods / Excellents, if Inn mind your CSII progress
*If Whistle < 3) NW SH GS Ing/Inn BB CSII til full [again, be mindful of Goods/Excellents, if Inn mind your CSII progress

That was my personal developed specialist rotation for 70dur. FS turns depend on Difficulty.

[Raves]

Comfort zone - Inner Quiet - Steady Hand 2. All tricks procs up to steady hand 2 are used to buy basic touches In place of hasty touch.

Tricks proc right after SH2 use precise touch then waste not. If not, then waste not. All good or excellent procs are used on precise touch, otherwise hasty touch 4 times replaced with basic touch for each ToT prior to SH2. I usually alternate HT and BT.

By this point, on 35 dur, i am at 15 dur.

Manipulation - CS2 - SH2 all procs to tricks.

That puts me at 25 dur with one charge of manip. Insert 2 BT/PT/HT as CP and procs allow.

I then do great strides, check for proc. Any proc between last touch and strides i ignore. If excellent proc, immediately byregots. If good, judge current quality, typically innovation then byregots unless over 20% or 9 plus IQ stack. Finish with CS2.

Now the above assumes you are In the 2 CS2 range with craftsmanship for that recipe. If not, save 21 cp for name of/brand of element or for gsm open w/ mark.

[Roth_Trailfinder]

Raves, just so you know, in all my note taking, Good trumps over having Innovation up.

Steady Hand.
Check condition. Excellent - Byregot's. Anything else, continue.
Great Strides.
Check condition. Excellent, Good - Byregot's. Anything else, continue.
Innovation.
Check Condition. Excellent, Good - Byregot's. Anything else, continue.
Fish for a step. Observe, Ingenuity, whatever.
Byregot's.

[Raves]

Now that you mention it, that is probably the case. typing this out on my phone from memory after an 8 hour drive into the mountains, then cobbling my verbose post to fit char limit, i prolly goofed. what you lined out stands as the better approach. I will say i dont have room in 35/40 dur crafts for any fishing at the wnd as sh2 runs out, but typically byre is enough.

On a string of bad luck i will fish for brow, or on 70/80 dur crafts i will have one step of sh2 available for fishing.

If i remember right, i think blessing overcomes brow at higher than 7 stacks? Or is it 6?

Anyway, point to the OP is that where it matters, manually managing procs is best at the moment. There are skills i havent played with much, like all the whistle structure, and only a few crafts including inno touch. They all just seem to add more rng than they are worth if you have omni xclass already.

[Tamianth]

Raves, yours was the only 35 or 40 dura rotaion I actually got to work, at my lvl and gear. So could you please help this old fart with no brain out, and actually type out what you do for the 7o and 80 duras, just like you did for the 35 and 40's? Please? With a cherry on top and some extra whipped cream? *Flutters eyelashes* :P

Edit: I am at lvl 53 with ONLY the lvl 53 craft gear from Heavensward, none of the pre-expansion stuff.

[Roth_Trailfinder]

When IQ shows 5, or less, Brow is better than Blessing.

When IQ shows 6, then both are equal.

When IQ shows 7 or higher, Blessing is better than Brow.

[Raves]

Since you do not have makers mark or name of element yet (lvl 54), you will want Careful Synth 2 and Ingenuity:

CZ IQ SH2 - any procs you spend on tricks. I alternate HT and BT to use SH2 stack. Always use procs on precise touch while in this stage. Every tricks you had before buys you a BT in place of HT. This way you can stay on course with your CP.

Now after last touch, look for any procs up to next SH2. These will all be tricks. this buys one more BT in place of HT as follows

Manipulation - SH2 - HT

By now you should have 30 dur, 1 manip charge, 4 SH2 charges. An excellent proc here with good IQ stack and quality can be used in blessing/brow depending on your control.

Great strides if good/excellent blessing or brow. If not

Inno then blessing or brow.

You should have enough left for Ing 2 then three CS2 to finish. If you do not, use more HT to bank it. Basically after last touch you should have 106 CP? To finish.

[Tamianth]

Thank you SO much, Raves Will try this out once Ive finished gathering. I was getting so disheartened by not being able to find any working kind of rotation, that I was about to give up. Us old farts (also dosed up on too many meds every day) sometimes dont have the brainpower any more to work it all out by ourselves, so need a bit of help

[Raves]

No worries. If you were on Gilgamesh i could give more onthe spot guidance. I think once you spin through it a few times you will see where adjustment is needed. It really is not far removed from what Pathfinder and others have posted.