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    New crafting rotations

    Hello

    I was wondering if you could share your crafting rotations for these new diff/dura items.

    As you know theres quite a few different difficulty and durability numbers and I'm a little lost on what rotations to use for hq's.

    Anywhere from 421-641/80, 697/70, 376/35, and 752-919/70

    I have some good tried and true rotations for all the old items but nothing for the new. I'm not very good at "winging" crafting rotations and need some solid sequences to use.

    I have been using some of the old rotations that kind of work but getting into the higher ones I definitely need something different. I have all crafts to 50 and did get gsm to 60 by just doing autocrafts.

    So any help would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks!!
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    I have not had any need for new rotations just due to the reduced durability (40 and 80 down to 35 and 70).

    80->70 Durability just means, literally, one fewer move. From 80 down to 20, or from 70 down to 10, is the same number of moves, and handled the same way. Master's Mend 2, and you're back at full Durability. Then, instead of 80 Durability's 6 moves before having to do a Byregot's Finisher, with 70 Durability you only have 5.

    40 Durability vs 35 Durability pretty much has no difference. You cannot do a WN->SH2->5HT rotation, but you can still use one move (CS2 or something) then use SH2->WN->4 moves then restore Durability, either MM1 or Manipulation. The change from 40 Durability down to 35 has had literally zero impact upon my patterns.
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    its really annoying having all my 80 durability macros become invalid tho, stupid 70 durability recipes, jerks
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    If you use Muscle Memory at the start of each 70/35 recipe, the durability lines up perfectly for any old 80/40 durability and both master mend skills for perfect full durability recovery.
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    Can someone spell out the 35 durability rotation for me? I don't think my brain woke up when I did. If anyone does, thank you!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shyluv View Post
    Can someone spell out the 35 durability rotation for me? I don't think my brain woke up when I did. If anyone does, thank you!
    35 is exactly the same as 40 durability, provided you are not using WN or WNII.
    If you are using WN/WNII: its still exactly the same if you use an even amount of touches during the buff (2,4,6,8), otherwise you will have 1 less durability loss move to perform.


    As such 35 dura recipes can be considered a direct nerf to WN 'durability skipping'.
    Not sure why, WN was rarely used anyway.
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    I am glad someone posted this - I was about to post a similar thread myself. I have always been an avid crafter, and lvlled all my crafts to 50 before I tackled any hunting classes, right back at the start of the game. Thing is, I then got very ill and had to stop playing for nearly a year, and I didnt manage to get any of the upgraded craft tools/gear before I fell ill So, I went into Heavensward with just basic crafting greens and the first blue tool, for each class. I didnt really notice anything until I hit about 53-54 and changed into a set of the new 53-54 gear and tools.

    Cont in next post...
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    Cont from last post....

    Now, I can just about craft 40 dura items using an old old macro, but forget about hq'ing :/ But an 80 dura item? No way. My old macros fail every time, Ive tried all of Mithrie's, all fail by running out of dura. Can someone PLEASE actually type out new 40 and 80 macros, as I am still too poorly for my brtain to actually work all this out myself, and that aint going to change I feel so frustrated by this that Ive actually had to stop crafting for now, until someone can help me with this. Goddess knows how a newbie dressed in the same gear, will manage.

    Please, someone help an old fart out? :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tamianth View Post
    Cont from last post....

    Now, I can just about craft 40 dura items using an old old macro, but forget about hq'ing :/ But an 80 dura item? No way. My old macros fail every time, Ive tried all of Mithrie's, all fail by running out of dura. Can someone PLEASE actually type out new 40 and 80 macros, as I am still too poorly for my brtain to actually work all this out myself, and that aint going to change I feel so frustrated by this that Ive actually had to stop crafting for now, until someone can help me with this. Goddess knows how a newbie dressed in the same gear, will manage.

    Please, someone help an old fart out? :P
    The main reason why old macros dont work anymore is because of the increased amount of progress required. Since this heavily depends on your level compared to the recipe level on top of craftmanship differences; there isnt really a set rotation we can give you.


    Unless you are very experienced with writing macros I would not advise using macros at all for leveling.
    Try to remember how you crafted items before you reached level 50.
    Leveling to 60 requires much of the same kind of crafting.


    For making a leveling macro: First build it up towards progress. Only use abilities that allow you to finish the craft.
    Once you have that down, use the remaining CP to add in touches and abilities for quality.
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    Last edited by Aeyis; 07-14-2015 at 03:20 AM.

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    It's very hard, maybe even impossible, to do a "perfect for all" crafting rotation.

    Your gear and your level in comparison to the recipe level GREATLY affect the rotation.

    (example: you may need Ingenuity2 to finish the progress of a lv55 craft in 2 steps if you are level 52-53, but if you are lv55+, you can totally skip Ingenuity2 and still finish the progress in 2 steps. In fact ingenuity2 would be a waste of CP in these cases)

    I'm sure someone will come up with 60* and 60** rotations for those with lv60 BiS crafter gear, but right now with people still leveling and gearing up, that's not gonna happen for the lv51-59 recipes.

    No one should need macros for lv 1 to lv 49 crafts.
    It's the same for lv51-59 now.
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    Last edited by aerolol; 07-14-2015 at 03:29 AM.

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