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  1. #941
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    Aeliott Cadenza
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hakmatic View Post
    I would clip demo then tod. I haven't really mathed it out but this is just what I feel would be best.
    Sounds about right, Demolish is our strongest move. Touch needs near full duration to be considered worth it (generally more than a crit bootshine at about 24s), whereas Demolish surpasses a crit-bootshine's worth of damage about 12 seconds in, varying based on crit ticks and whatever the skill speed modifier is. Logically it would suffer less from clipping than Touch would.
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    Last edited by Aeliott; 09-12-2015 at 02:35 AM.

  2. #942
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    hey all, what are some good numbers for a dummy parse at i193? i've been messing around and can't seem to get over 1300 for ~3 min parse
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    Using food/potion? Party buff? If not, right around 1300 sounds about right for i193
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  4. #944
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeliott View Post
    Sounds about right, Demolish is our strongest move. Touch needs near full duration to be considered worth it (generally more than a crit bootshine at about 24s), whereas Demolish surpasses a crit-bootshine's worth of damage about 12 seconds in, varying based on crit ticks and whatever the skill speed modifier is. Logically it would suffer less from clipping than Touch would.
    I mean, if you really want to know why I said you have to track down all the potency... the most direct reasoning is that if you clip ToD there, you have lost ToD ticks while also not gaining any Demolish ticks! The next Demolish will accomplish the clipping you were trying to avoid.
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  5. #945
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    Zami Terrechant
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeliott View Post
    Sounds about right, Demolish is our strongest move. Touch needs near full duration to be considered worth it (generally more than a crit bootshine at about 24s), whereas Demolish surpasses a crit-bootshine's worth of damage about 12 seconds in, varying based on crit ticks and whatever the skill speed modifier is. Logically it would suffer less from clipping than Touch would.
    this is so wrong, sorry i just have to point out why.
    3 seconds worth of demolish if you were to clip it, is 40 potency lost.
    3 seconds of ToD if you were to clip it is only 25 potency lost.
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  6. #946
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zamii View Post
    this is so wrong, sorry i just have to point out why.
    3 seconds worth of demolish if you were to clip it, is 40 potency lost.
    3 seconds of ToD if you were to clip it is only 25 potency lost.
    You're right, I don't know what I was smoking with that last sentence :P
    Though I do have a feeling clipping demo in such a situation would be better in the long-run. It's probably all incredibly minor anyway.
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  7. #947
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeliott View Post
    You're right, I don't know what I was smoking with that last sentence :P
    Though I do have a feeling clipping demo in such a situation would be better in the long-run. It's probably all incredibly minor anyway.
    i cant think of any reason it would be better in the long run, but your right it would be very minor.
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  8. #948
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zamii View Post
    this is so wrong, sorry i just have to point out why.
    3 seconds worth of demolish if you were to clip it, is 40 potency lost.
    3 seconds of ToD if you were to clip it is only 25 potency lost.
    Lol this is the exact thing as I have on my mind, clipping ToD seems more worth it i/o Demo
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  9. #949
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    Levi Aroma
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    Well people are talking about the auto facetarget macro on reddit : https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme..._losing_speed/

    I wonder if we'll get an answer about this soon from SE, hopefully it will be like the parsers, use it if you want but don't talk about it
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  10. #950
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    Lilyth Chan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Livaille View Post
    Well people are talking about the auto facetarget macro on reddit : https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme..._losing_speed/

    I wonder if we'll get an answer about this soon from SE, hopefully it will be like the parsers, use it if you want but don't talk about it
    Yes, but unlike parses, this does give players an unfair advantage in comparison to people not using it (IMO).

    I dont really care about people using it during raids, but when it comes to PvP this is completely broken. If you decide to chase down a SMN or BLM, it's not even funny how some of them can backstep away, at sprint speed, while facing and attacking you. Not to mention that casts will always go out even if someone is running circles around them.
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