Monk 3.0 CHAKRA UNLEASHED

[Phireblast]

What's the best parse time length I should try to see a difference in DPS with fracture? What I did was have a MCH in my party keep the TP promotion up, then did my regular 3 minute parse. After that, I did another parse but following the fracture appliance rule(3-4 seconds on DK), but didn't see ANY difference in my DPS. btw, the only reason I had the MCH keep a TP promotion up is because my TP is pretty much gone before 3 minutes with a fracture parse.

[Butcherboy]

Yeah which makes sense since getting GL3 as quick as possible is the most important part of our job. So opening with SP then PB means that any gcd or ogcd AFTER PB will be buff vs starting a fight with PB right of te batt mean we're delaying our GL.

[Kilio]

Hi I'm new here, just wanted to ask about the new opener, if i wanted to start with shoulder tackle which one is more optimized according to your opinion :

FS Coeurl Form>ST> Demo>PB>Snap>(BFB)>Snap>(IR)>DK>(X-pot)>Twin>Elixir Field>TOD>Howling Fist>Boot>Steel Peak>True Strike>Forbidden Chakra> Demolish

or

FS Coeurl Form>ST> Snap>PB>Snap>(BFB)>Demo>(IR)>DK>(X-pot)>Twin>Elixir Field>TOD>Howling Fist>Boot>Steel Peak>True Strike>Forbidden Chakra> Demolish

[Allyrion]

Hi I'm new here, just wanted to ask about the new opener, if i wanted to start with shoulder tackle which one is more optimized according to your opinion :

FS Coeurl Form>ST> Demo>PB>Snap>(BFB)>Snap>(IR)>DK>(X-pot)>Twin>Elixir Field>TOD>Howling Fist>Boot>Steel Peak>True Strike>Forbidden Chakra> Demolish

or

FS Coeurl Form>ST> Snap>PB>Snap>(BFB)>Demo>(IR)>DK>(X-pot)>Twin>Elixir Field>TOD>Howling Fist>Boot>Steel Peak>True Strike>Forbidden Chakra> Demolish

The former.
Demo clips too much with the latter, I think.

[Hitoseijuro]

Hi I'm new here, just wanted to ask about the new opener, if i wanted to start with shoulder tackle which one is more optimized according to your opinion :

FS Coeurl Form>ST> Demo>PB>Snap>(BFB)>Snap>(IR)>DK>(X-pot)>Twin>Elixir Field>TOD>Howling Fist>Boot>Steel Peak>True Strike>Forbidden Chakra> Demolish

or

FS Coeurl Form>ST> Snap>PB>Snap>(BFB)>Demo>(IR)>DK>(X-pot)>Twin>Elixir Field>TOD>Howling Fist>Boot>Steel Peak>True Strike>Forbidden Chakra> Demolish

If you go with the former, you might as well go with the standard 3.0 opener, because you need 1 gcd to make sure you dont clip Demo. In your first rotation you're applying demo at 4 seconds left, which means you're clipping 1-2 ticks.

The later, you're definately clipping a lot, you are applying the 2nd demo when the first one is at 8 seconds.

[Kilio]

Ah ic, yeah i miss that part where i still need 1 more GCD to avoid clipping demo too much. I suppose there are no conclusion yet on best opener so far ?

[Lilyth]

Yeah which makes sense since getting GL3 as quick as possible is the most important part of our job. So opening with SP then PB means that any gcd or ogcd AFTER PB will be buff vs starting a fight with PB right of te batt mean we're delaying our GL.

There's absolutely zero delay if you start with PB (instead of ST). You get GL3 at the exact same speed.

And even if you do ST first, PB animation is too short to affect your DPS in any meaningful way.

[Hitoseijuro]

There's absolutely zero delay if you start with PB (instead of ST). You get GL3 at the exact same speed.

And even if you do ST first, PB animation is too short to affect your DPS in any meaningful way.

That's the third time you miss what is being discussed, thankfully Butcherboy read what was being discussed. Nothing was mentioned about PB animation in his post. Hes referring to what I have been discussing this whole time, about starting your PB rotation either with 1 GL stack vs NO GL stack. That 1 extra stack adds to the next 2 or 3 GCDs depending on how youre going to set up your opener.

[Lilyth]

That's the third time you miss what is being discussed, thankfully Butcherboy read what was being discussed. Nothing was mentioned about PB animation in his post. Hes referring to what I have been discussing this whole time, about starting your PB rotation either with 1 GL stack vs NO GL stack. That 1 extra stack adds to the next 2 or 3 GCDs depending on how youre going to set up your opener.

I'm afraid you are quite missing my point as well. He was referring to the speed in which you attain GL3, and that's precisely what I've addressed in my post.

Regarding the starting your PB rotation with NO GL vs 1 GL subject, this is irrelevant if you ignore the short PB animation. You will start with 0 stacks in **both** rotations before hitting the boss with your first Demo/SP. The only difference is that you use PB first instead of FS.

Anyway, perhaps I'm not being entirely clear. Hope someone explains better than I did.

[Butcherboy]

I'm not talking about the animation delay what so ever. What I'm trying to get my across is SP(gl1) that's 10% dmg bonus right there followed by PB, then SP again (gl2) but not only that, it's also buff by the first SP. Where as (again not talking about animation delay) starting with PB then SP (gl1), so pretty much your delaying gaining GL stack vs SP PB your starting with everything else with stacks.