Monk 3.0 CHAKRA UNLEASHED

[Ricdeau]

Also but with the use of fracture should my demolish be either at 1 second or about to fall off right before I apply it again?

A lot of people get caught in the trap thinking there's a specific place in your rotation to place Fracture. You only need to try to meet certain criteria to use it other than that you can use Fracture where ever you want in the rotation. You just want to make sure it's not going to cause you to drop DK, TwS, or your other DOTs. Generally speaking a lot of people place it before refreshing Demo for ease. In this scenario your Demo will have 4-5 seconds left on it meaning the use of Fracture at this time will lessen your clipping down to a minimum.

[SkyBane]

is EVERYONE else just better than me or are numbers I keep seeing in this thread horribly inflated? I'm a full BiS MNK i209 (except weapon - thordan) and I can only really hold 1,450 dps on a dummy with correct opener, high DoT uptime, and do like 1350 in a real dungeon. Are people reporting 1,400~ sustained just trolling?

[Ricdeau]

Most people don't specify conditions such as buffs and duration which make a big difference. However, with that said sustaining 1400+ with no buffs on a dummy isn't too hard with decent gear. So when making your comparisons make sure you get the conditions. Is the person getting party buff, food buff, using pots, are they doing 3 minutes, are the running until going TP dry, etc? Real fights will always vary based on mechanics obviously. Most people either report raid DPS on a specific turn or dummy DPS as those are easier comparisons to make due to large amounts of data, but that doesn't account for differences in tactics and the above dummy criteria I listed.

[Butcherboy]

ok thank you very much for the answer. yeah i actually end up hurting my self due to the mentality of focusing to much on crit since it has higher stat weight. thank you.

[MrCookTM]

Does skill speed tend to come into play with the timing of fracture? Also can the use of fracture a thex weapon and only one piece of gear be the reason why a fc mate is beating me out by around 50 to 60 when I am being parsed. Him at 1470 me at around 1416.

Do you mean he has the thordan wep and you don't? If so, then yes, it's normal that he outparses you by around 50 dps. Weapon damage is huge.

[Melch]

is EVERYONE else just better than me or are numbers I keep seeing in this thread horribly inflated? I'm a full BiS MNK i209 (except weapon - thordan) and I can only really hold 1,450 dps on a dummy with correct opener, high DoT uptime, and do like 1350 in a real dungeon. Are people reporting 1,400~ sustained just trolling?

Need to see in which condition they are doing their numbers.
But how much are you doing on things like A3S and Thordan first phase? From my side, I know I'm generally between 1.4k and 1.8k depending if our AST gives me the speed card or not.

[Craiger]

is EVERYONE else just better than me or are numbers I keep seeing in this thread horribly inflated? I'm a full BiS MNK i209 (except weapon - thordan) and I can only really hold 1,450 dps on a dummy with correct opener, high DoT uptime, and do like 1350 in a real dungeon. Are people reporting 1,400~ sustained just trolling?

Totally depends on the fight. You're getting 1450 on dummy and 1350 in real dungeons, which could be higher. At i209 with Thordan wep, you can at the very least get 1500+ on dummy, and in dungeons, since you get party buff and potentially other buffs from party members, you can get pretty high DPS.

Not sure when you say "real dungeon", if you just mean dungeons, or raids etc... but in dungeons you can get 1500+ on some bosses, although those fights doesn't last very long.

If we're talking raids though, don't look too closely on some of the numbers circling around, cause unless your whole group is doing very good DPS, you won't be able to really compete. Groups are clearing A1S before any jumps for example, and are getting really high parses because of that. What party composition you have makes a big difference too.

[VitalSuit]

So what's the consensus? Go for the anima weapon or stick with Esoterics?

[Ricdeau]

So what's the consensus? Go for the anima weapon or stick with Esoterics?

It's certainly a nice weapon, but secondaries aren't worth enough currently to really consider it a great upgrade. Really this just comes down to what kind of time investment you want to put towards getting it. I'm not a fan of how they've recycled the same old crap for the relic quests to shoehorn in a way for them to force people to run old content once again. Eventually the relic will be a good investment, but if you have the 210 Eso weapon already I wouldn't bother rushing.

[Ossom]

Have the 210 Eso, theres just no way I would give up the skill speed off of it unless Diadem becomes a thing again and people start doing it. But even then I go in there as Smn/Blm to get caster gear.