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  1. #921
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    Shinobu Shinobu
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Elixir Field & Howling Fist:

    • Using both during Equal Concentration. (Have been advised by my raid not to AOE here, however, both BFB & IR are up, so using it here would be ideal.)

    • Shoulder Tackle > Elixir Field immediately after Wash Away #2 to hit both Living Limbs after they split. (Strict window before they are dragged away. May not be up.)

    • Saving Elixir Field & Howling Fist for 2+ targets during P3 Lubricant phase. (Not sure if you can hit 3 with these skills. Can you?)

    • Saving Elixir & Howling Fist for the Living Limbs in final phase. (Uncertain due to personal progression. Usually my BFB is up on #1 and I imagine a Potion + another CD will be up for #2. Worth delaying for buffs?)

    • Running through the center of the tornado in P3 and using Elixir Field on the set of 4 Gear Lubricants. (Risky. Dropsy. The set of 4 Gears also includes the Drainage tethers.)
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  2. #922
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    Shinobu Shinobu
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Rockbreaker:

    • Both Living Limbs in P2. (After split, during Digititus, after Equal Concentration- not sure if people use it during?)

    • Targeting the center Piston/Gear Lubricant in a group of 2-3. (RNG based. Is the cone wide enough to hit 3? However, even on 2, it is a DPS increase.)

    • The 2 Gaols/Living Limbs during final phase. (Perhaps not ideal here as it is a burn?)

    Arm of the Destroyer (lol):

    • Running through the center of the tornado in P3 and using it on the set of 4 Gear Lubricants. (50 extra potency but risky for the same reasons stated previously. Highly doubt anyone does this, but 1391 is so high that I'm just going through all possible permutations.)

    Please let me know your thoughts on whether I'm just letting my imagination go wild or if top MNKs actually utilize a few of these tricks. Also, as I am currently progressing myself, any other tips to optimize would be appreciated as well. Thanks!
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  3. #923
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    Zami Terrechant
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    Tonberry
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    Monk Lv 60
    with extremely high crit rate runs, i've been over 1300 before on that fight (sadly no kills on those runs), and i was only at i203 before my wep upgrade.
    however the add phase may have been also extremely kind to them, ie no polarity tethers and adds spawning nearby constantly, as well as the rest of the group not blowing them all up instantly, which would be supported by the significant dps drop going down to their second place dps.
    That group in particular also runs AST, so on top of being extremely lucky and supported by the raid group, the AST could have also drawn nothing but balance cards the entire fight and given them all to the monk.

    TL;DR super.. SUPER lucky run, as well as gear and raid group support

    EDIT: it is possible to hit 3 targets with howling fist and 4 targets with elixir field during add phase if they line up perfectly.
    EDIT2: i do not use rockbreaker that fight, i get yelled at enough by my raid group about my TP, only oGCD hitting multiple targets
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    Last edited by Zamii; 09-10-2015 at 09:27 PM.

  4. #924
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    Quote Originally Posted by valsemiel View Post
    Elixir Field & Howling Fist:

    • Using both during Equal Concentration. (Have been advised by my raid not to AOE here, however, both BFB & IR are up, so using it here would be ideal.)
    tell your raid group that you will do more damage to your main target if you use these 2 skills, as only your main target will have dragon kick, and even if it was even, it literally doesn't change anything as far as the dps check is concerned for hand of pain
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  5. #925
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    Hak Matic
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    A3 is a monk turn, but yes a lot of it comes from rock breaker, elixir and howling. Also I would suggest to use fflogs instead of that spreadsheet I linked a while back. FFlogs is super legit, tell you everything you would wanna know, and also doesn't count overkill. With fflogs you will know exactly how many rock breakers they use, exactly what time they use it, all that good stuff. I would highly suggest looking to that from now on instead of those spreadsheets where you will never know how they achieved that dps.
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  6. #926
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    Shinobu Shinobu
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Appreciate the input. It seems like people aren't really using that many Rockbreakers and instead rely on the OGCDs + high single target damage. I didn't even notice the AST either. Also, I just took a look at FFLogs and it's pretty amazing. Now I can stalk all my MNK senpais and their fight by fight rotations :>. Thanks!
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  7. #927
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    Np! To bad I live in the dragoon realm now :/. One day I'll punch things again.
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  8. #928
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    Monk Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Hakmatic View Post
    Np! To bad I live in the dragoon realm now :/. One day I'll punch things again.
    please tell me im not the only one that read that as one ilm punch, my first thought was even if you played monk you don't do that lol

    edit: just looked over fflogs, its almost scary how close we are to one another hak
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    Last edited by Zamii; 09-11-2015 at 03:12 AM.

  9. #929
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    Hak Matic
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    Yeah we are very close, I died on that a3 one I have. I also just started a4 last night even though I got world 4th a3 lol. Lolz at the one elm, I thought the same shit, even went back in to edit my post haha.
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  10. #930
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    Jess Victorix
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    Gilgamesh
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    Woah this FFlogs is insane thanks for the heads up hak also get yo self back to gil you bum! =p
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