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    Humorless's Avatar
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    Naesala L'arachel
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    Odin
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    Pugilist Lv 90
    DET not doing anything for AAs means Im not gonna worry about it. Crit for the win. SS might take over if you stack enough of it though. We'll have to see how our TP consumption is through all of the new content.
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    Ricdeau Cyton
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    Gilgamesh
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    Monk Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Humorless View Post
    DET not doing anything for AAs means Im not gonna worry about it. Crit for the win. SS might take over if you stack enough of it though. We'll have to see how our TP consumption is through all of the new content.
    Where are you getting that DET doesn't do anything for auto attacks? They reduced it's effect on auto attacks, but increased it's stat allocation on pieces. Unless there's been some new math to show that it not longer benefits auto attacks this statement is inaccurate, but if you have some evidence to this then I'd appreciate it if you could link it to me so I can read over it.

    For reference from the 3.0 patch notes:
    The effect of determination on auto-attacks has been reduced.
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    Atiqa Craiger
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ricdeau View Post
    Where are you getting that DET doesn't do anything for auto attacks? They reduced it's effect on auto attacks, but increased it's stat allocation on pieces. Unless there's been some new math to show that it not longer benefits auto attacks this statement is inaccurate, but if you have some evidence to this then I'd appreciate it if you could link it to me so I can read over it.

    For reference from the 3.0 patch notes:
    The effect of determination on auto-attacks has been reduced.
    It has just been reduced. Crit meanwhile got a buff, so all in all, they are pretty even I would guess.

    SS is still not as strong as Crit/Det, and I don't think stacking it would really give you an increase in DPS. And if it does, you would probably lose that advantage because of running out of TP faster.
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    Ricdeau Cyton
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    Quote Originally Posted by Craiger View Post
    It has just been reduced. Crit meanwhile got a buff, so all in all, they are pretty even I would guess.

    SS is still not as strong as Crit/Det, and I don't think stacking it would really give you an increase in DPS. And if it does, you would probably lose that advantage because of running out of TP faster.
    This is my feeling on the stats currently as well.
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    Atiqa Craiger
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    So, what Esoteric pieces are you going after first? Weapon takes 3 weeks, and that sucks, but it does give you a lot of DPS ofc... even though I hate that both our endgame weapons have high SS.
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    Like Butter
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    Zodiark
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    Monk Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Craiger View Post
    So, what Esoteric pieces are you going after first? Weapon takes 3 weeks, and that sucks, but it does give you a lot of DPS ofc... even though I hate that both our endgame weapons have high SS.
    Probably the weapon to get it out of the way, still surprised the esoteric weapon upgraded is on par with the savage raid weapon, no i215 weap this time around I guess.
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    Miru West
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    Behemoth
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    Monk Lv 70
    Thinking on going the weapon route 1st. I mean it's self explanatory as to why and no other item will give you that big of a increase not to mention allow smoother dps checks.

    My only pev is its 990 like what is this extra 90 crap? Seems it's there juuuuuust to make it take 3 weeks.
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    Draucant Nosural
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    Midgardsormr
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    Marauder Lv 50
    With critical hit rate now increasing crit damage, does IR also increase crit damage?
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    Zami Terrechant
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    Tonberry
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    Monk Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Draucant View Post
    With critical hit rate now increasing crit damage, does IR also increase crit damage?
    sadly no, this goes for all crit rate buffs, ie strait shot, battle litany, etc
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    Alexis Wolf
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    Louisoix
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    Lancer Lv 80
    Okay, I'm just gonna ask here just in case.
    So my group went into Savage A1 yesterday and well I switched to Monk from Bard for expansion so I always feel like I do badly, and us wiping to enrage at 16/20% didn't help much. I was really wondering if you all had some tips for me on the fight. >_>
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