Monk 3.0 CHAKRA UNLEASHED

**Krindor** · 03-23-2016 10:01 PM

Originally Posted by Critical-Limit

If it's a really really really long fight where I expect to starve on TP. I'll still open with forbidden chakra. But instead of fracture during that moment I'll use meditate. So I can build up and get the TP move.

Not sure if this is even a good idea but it feels right lol

Fracture + Purification wins out in longer fights vs FC. Around the 100 sec mark is when using fracture will actually be better than using FC. The second reason is that at the current SkS bloat you'll run out of TP before 2nd invigorate so with purification you'll be able to last until then and for a longer fight you'll last longer.

**SunnyHirose** · 03-23-2016 08:19 PM

As a general thing, Lore has higher performance even though you won't be able to upgrade it for now. Especially seeing how there's no crafted equivalent to Lore weapons. Is the potential there for a specific Eikonic pentameld to outdo a specific non-upgraded Lore piece when you disregard the effects of accuracy? Yes, with all Vs I'm pretty sure you can make a slightly better necklace. Yet that too will be inferior to the upgraded piece and for a pointless cost.

Thing is, though, you can get a full Eikonic set in a single day if you have the resources (time, gil, connections). Lore is locked out no matter how well you play or how much you farm.

**MonkDace** · 03-24-2016 07:35 AM

Originally Posted by SunnyHirose

Thing is, though, you can get a full Eikonic set in a single day if you have the resources (time, gil, connections). Lore is locked out no matter how well you play or how much you farm.

So basically the Eikon gear is like an accelerated stopgap option if you want to cover a base and take your time on upgrading that slot with lore later?

**Ossom** · 03-23-2016 10:45 PM

Perfect Balance : The point of Perfect Balance at the start is to get your 5 Buffs up in the most optimal way possible. These Buffs/Debuffs are Greased Lightning 1, Greased Lightning 2, Greased Lightning 3, Dragon Kick Debuff on Boss, Twin Snakes Buff. So every opener will have you use 5 skills that each apply one of these debuffs/buffs before you do any other attacking skill, its a DPS loss to do anything else, these buffs are the bread and butter of Monk's consistent damage.

Placement of Internal Release before the first Bootshine : Bootshine only gives you a 100% Crit if you are in Opo-Opo Form. But when Perfect Balance drops, you are formless, so this Bootshine does not gain the Opo-Opo form bonus and will not give you a guaranteed Crit, you can actually change this Bootshine with a Dragon Kick and as long as you get the Flank Positional for the Dragon Kick, you'll end up with the exact same Potency, since the Dragon Kick won't refresh the Debuff either.

Edit: Perfect Balance during the middle of the Fight : I personally do not use Perfect Balance in the middle of a fight unless its for spamming Rockbreaker in a PUG group/Dungeon. I've found that during raids, wiping is the name of the game. Wiping over and over for hours on end. This means that if I start using Perfect balance in the middle of a fight for anything other than regaining GL3 swiftly and we wipe shortly after, either the group needs to wait for my PB (Unlikely) or we pull without my PB (Which is the worst feeling as a Monk IMHO).

**Cold_Raven** · 03-23-2016 11:01 PM

Originally Posted by Ossom

But when Perfect Balance drops, you are formless, so this Bootshine does not gain the Opo-Opo form bonus and will not give you a guaranteed Crit...

Ha! Yeah, I missed that. Cool, thanks.

Then once this opener is completed, I'm guessing the main monk rotation just kicks in? Which would be doing the 3-stage combo flipping between Twin Snakes and True Strike while popping the DoTs back on as they fall off and weaving in all off-GCDs (...to describe it in a condensed nutshell), right?

**Ossom** · 03-24-2016 12:29 AM

Originally Posted by Cold_Raven

Ha! Yeah, I missed that. Cool, thanks.

Then once this opener is completed, I'm guessing the main monk rotation just kicks in? Which would be doing the 3-stage combo flipping between Twin Snakes and True Strike while popping the DoTs back on as they fall off and weaving in all off-GCDs (...to describe it in a condensed nutshell), right?

The only DoTs that should get reapplied when they immediately drop off are Demolish and Touch of Death, Fracture shouldn't even be remotely close to a 100% Uptime. Other than that, yeah you should have a basic Monk Rotation, some things you can do to optimize DPS :

Hold AoE oGCDs if it means they will optimize dps (ex. Instead of using Howling Fists in the opener, if 1-59 Seconds later into the fight you can hit 2+ monsters with it then you should hold it, but not 60 seconds)
Stop applying DoTs when they no longer can get full duration. Math out how many ticks they need to apply before they do like 200 Potency, and then stop around there.
If you are completely unable to get a Bootshine Proc, then reapply Dragon Kick and switch your rotation from Dragon Kick > Twin to Dragon Kick > True and Bootshine > True to Bootshine > Twin
Learn to use Rockbreaker if you can hit 2 or more monsters over snap punch
Learn to hold shoulder tackle if it means not being away from boss for longer instead of just blowing it
Elixir Field doesn't need you to target something to use it, so you have far more control of how many/which monsters you hit with it so learn to clip more monsters with it to maximize damage

Theres a bunch of other things you can do too but I'm not that skilled at Monk lol

**Krindor** · 03-24-2016 01:12 AM

Originally Posted by Jinzhu

That depends. Can Demolish get its full duration off on both targets? If so then it would be Rockbreaker on 3+ targets only. It might even be worth multidotting with 3 Demos now with the new changes, IDK.

Demolish is up for 21 seconds and reapplied after about 18 if you don't use ToD. So you can get in 1 rockbreaker every 3 rotations on a mob and Ossom only said over Snap punch ^^
As for 3 targets, Demo will be the better choice with a ToD after every 3 demolitions to stop from clipping Demo.

**OmegaStrongtan** · 03-24-2016 12:01 AM

What is BiS for monk this 'season'?
So much Speed everywhere...

**Craiger** · 03-24-2016 06:19 PM

Anyone who has beaten the A8S SSS dummy? and what gear/ilvl do you have?

Beating that dummy haven't seemed to be too big of a problem for many jobs, but it doesn't seem to be that easy for MNK. Other jobs could beat it with full crafted and Sephi wep, but is that even possible for MNK? I don't have crafted, but I'm ilvl 223, and I can't seem to be even close to beating it... I've been playing MNK for a year now, and have never had a problem with DPS and doing a perfect rotation on a dummy is really simple, so can't really do anything different to get closer, not much closer at least.

Have SE put the requirement too high, considering we have crazy high SS ?

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