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  1. 11-10-2015 05:51 AM #1121
    valsemiel
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    So, with the new randomized secondary stat gear coming out, is it feasible to run entirely crit/det or is there a minimum skillspeed threshold that Monks still require to meet for PB, etc?
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  2. 11-10-2015 06:21 AM #1122
    Ricdeau
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    Quote Originally Posted by valsemiel View Post
    So, with the new randomized secondary stat gear coming out, is it feasible to run entirely crit/det or is there a minimum skillspeed threshold that Monks still require to meet for PB, etc?
    You do not need any SS to get 5 actions within PB. So you could run a 0 SS setup, but I would imagine it might be a little difficult to get there since the stats are randomized. I've never been a fan of no SS builds, but it's always been a viable setup if there was gear to do it.
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  3. 11-10-2015 07:00 AM #1123
    valsemiel
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    Hm, well with my Rising Suns, I'd get +71 SkS for a total of 425 with no other pieces. I'd probably swap out my chest for Crit/Acc, feet for Crit/Det, necklace for Crit/Det, bracelet for Crit/Det and ring for Crit/Acc. It would net me roughly 200 extra crit, peaking close to 1000 total. Based on Dervy's formula, that would be an extra 5% crit chance and 5% damage increase to crits. Though, I wonder if building a more balanced build (i.e. ~600 sks) would net me more damage as there are instances with phase transitions where I end my rotation perfectly on a snap punch such as A3 & 4.
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  4. 11-10-2015 07:03 AM #1124
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    I personally love skill speed now, especially with Purification. So I've pretty much forsaken Crit/Det if I can go Crit/Skill Speed instead. Mostly because the BLM and DRG in my group push phases so freaking fast I risk losing GL in AS4 if I don't have more Skill Speed.

    There is no minimum skill speed requirement though.
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  5. 11-10-2015 11:13 AM #1125
    Phireblast
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    Going by weights, the void ark feet might out BIS the Gordian one.

    Void ark: 70.716(i probably flubbed this, correct if wrong)
    Gordian: 67.421
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  6. 11-10-2015 03:32 PM #1126
    Butcherboy
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    With the void arc gear using ariyal. Swapping some gear around I was at 622acc and 902 crit and 452 det. Is that to much crit?
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  7. 11-10-2015 06:47 PM #1127
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phireblast View Post
    Going by weights, the void ark feet might out BIS the Gordian one.

    Void ark: 70.716(i probably flubbed this, correct if wrong)
    Gordian: 67.421
    Void Ark boots value = 70.716 (ilvl 200)
    Gordian boots value = 73.917 (ilvl 210)
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  8. 11-11-2015 01:09 AM #1128
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    This Diadem stuff is OP

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  9. 11-11-2015 01:12 AM #1129
    Ricdeau
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    Wuuuuuuuut

    Edit - Figure I should actually say something other than letting my jaw hit the floor. That is crazy.
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  10. 11-11-2015 10:13 AM #1130
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    Our war got a similar beast of i210 fending pants with crit/skillspeed/lolparry/acc. That being said, not only is the chance that something for your job even drops pretty low, it's also not guaranteed 210 even in gold chests, the stats on the pieces are also random in they're height. Hell we had an i210 aiming choker drop with only mainstat and 10 (!) skillspeed. That's it. That was also the only 210 piece in that particular chest (i180 for the others) and that for a mob that takes 5 full minutes to zerg even for a full alliance, after it already took like 20 minutes to even spawn it.

    Tl;dr, you can very well find the piece of gear of your life, but chances are you're hunting gear in Diadem for 100+ hours and never see something even semi-decent for your main job.
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