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    CGMidlander's Avatar
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    Height Error
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    Jenova
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greywolfamakir View Post
    Well, after a lot of tests I have seen the results and I have decided to change my opener:



    The only one change here is just the first TS is after DK and potion now. The potency of the opener is higher overall. (The difference is really really low, but there is a potency gain).
    My opener is similar, but slightly different. For most bosses I open with shoulder tackle to close the distance, but in cases where I don't this is how I would order my oGCDs instead. The standard oGCDs are used in order of PPS (Potency/Cooldown)
    Forbidden Chakra last because Forbidden isn't on a standard CD, so there's no PPS loss in holding it, unlike normal oGCD skills.

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    Ossom Possom
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    Adamantoise
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    Popping all of your buffs before you even have GL3, Twin Snakes, and Dragon Kick up is just. Why do you guys do this?
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    Laekhiya Ghenna
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    Balmung
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    Monk Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Ossom View Post
    Popping all of your buffs before you even have GL3, Twin Snakes, and Dragon Kick up is just. Why do you guys do this?
    Goon popped Litany the second he tickled the boss that's why.
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    Cryss Cook
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    Quote Originally Posted by PFM View Post
    Goon popped Litany the second he tickled the boss that's why.
    So in order to make the fact that one of the buffs (BL) has a suboptimal timing for your job even worse, you decided to pop all your stuff at that time too? ^^

    Sarcasm was intentional here lol. But pls think about it. Also GL3 + TwS + DK is a metric crap ton stronger than BL.
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    Almalexia Indoril
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    Hyperion
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    Pugilist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ossom View Post
    Popping all of your buffs before you even have GL3, Twin Snakes, and Dragon Kick up is just. Why do you guys do this?
    On Thordan EX, for example, you can reuse IR just after Ancient Quaga when you use IR in time with the graphic above.

    Is there more value in buff frequency or buff stacking?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almalexia View Post
    On Thordan EX, for example, you can reuse IR just after Ancient Quaga when you use IR in time with the graphic above.

    Is there more value in buff frequency or buff stacking?
    Not sure actually. But IR is your strongest buff, if you can get that off more often then I say go for it.

    @Buterchboy, Not sure why that is, you would probably have a higher burst if you pop all your buffs immediately, but that's just simple math, you are doing all of your dmg at the start, so your burst will be higher, but it won't be sustained as long. I'm really weary of your 1.4k Sustained Number though at 197, as I'm not sure if that is actually possible. Do you have a link I can look at?

    I don't see how you would gain more dps besides getting your CDs up quicker, but you're saying you do 100 more dps by being about to get maybe one more Shoulder Tackle, Exlier Drive and Howling Peak off during the entirety of a fight? I don't see it.
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    Commodore Butcherboy
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    Ok here's the YouTube vid that I watched that made just go back the 3.0 rotation.
    https://youtu.be/WpH-GlngAu4
    whEn you guys introduced the new rotation in the front page I went with that one. But as I Said I just couldn't get the same numbers as in that vid, so that's why I went back.

    Here another one ilvl 205 with SP at the end of EF but again 3.0 rotation being use.
    https://youtu.be/dHs8mcq8hsQ....

    Ps. I'm not starting any fight, is just that u guys do theory crafting and I don't so usually I just fallow what works. But so far I haven't seen any of the 3.07 rotation in action yet that surpass those numbers.
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    Zami Terrechant
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    Tonberry
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    Monk Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Butcherboy View Post
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    Ps. I'm not starting any fight, is just that u guys do theory crafting and I don't so usually I just fallow what works. But so far I haven't seen any of the 3.07 rotation in action yet that surpass those numbers.
    if its any concellation, even with the theory crafting i've done between the 2 rotations (granted it was fairly limited) the rotation that your using still looks better, and like you i have had better results with it as well.
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    Leona Dawnstar
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    Malboro
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Butcherboy View Post
    Ps. I'm not starting any fight, is just that u guys do theory crafting and I don't so usually I just fallow what works. But so far I haven't seen any of the 3.07 rotation in action yet that surpass those numbers.
    Uh, yes we have, I posted a while back that I was ilvl 204 and had done over 1400s before and averaged 1380+ on other parses, people with higher ilvls should have no problem achieving 1450-1500. No food/pot/party buff either on those parses......
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    Commodore Butcherboy
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    If we're talking about pps would it be better to do ST before HF and steel peak before HF? Meaning get your lowest recast Gdc out first so that they are back up again as Deon as possible? But for opener I do DM PB SP bfb SP ir DK pot TS EF SP st BS peak TRUE hf DM fc FRACTURE.
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    Last edited by Butcherboy; 11-25-2015 at 06:39 PM.

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