Bard and how to fix it.

[Underdog2204]

Pretty shoddy design to straight up ignore one of your core passives from 2.0 though...

Yeah but it's a decent idea.

BLM's are having to all out ignore most of their proc's atm...

Overall the classes just don't seem work as fluidly as they did in 2.0 > 2.55 imo, it's not just affecting BRD's unfortunatly

[RiceisNice]

Yeah but it's a decent idea.

BLM's are having to all out ignore most of their proc's atm...

Overall the classes just don't seem work as fluidly as they did in 2.0 > 2.55 imo, it's not just affecting BRD's unfortunatly

They said they were going to address it in the live letter though. Right now thundercloud doesn't really justify the GCD it takes since it'll throw enochian rotation out of whack. And even then, everything else outside of thundercloud syngergies with how BLM previously played; They're still managing umbral/astral efficently to cycle their mana pools, and now they have new spells to work with outside of fire I during astral. On top of mana now they also ahve to manage enochian duration when they need to swap astral/umbral.

I wouldn't put it to the same degree as bards who has a cast time getting in the way of their oGCD resets

[Underdog2204]

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Ok this is getting a bit tiresome now.

BRD's do not have to have everything that much worse than everyone else that it automatically makes other class issues irrelevant. Every single time someone says something even remotely to do with another class having a problem someone like you hops in and goes "oh noes, we have it much much worse! WM!"... Like every damn time and it is getting very tiresome...

Yes BRD has issues and having a change of playstyle and loosing procs suck, but it is not something that will never get fixed. The issue's BRD are experiencing are not more important, no matter what you would like to think. BRD's can still play just like BLM's can, but they both loose out on damage due to it, so why is BRD's loss all of a sudden more important?

I'm really starting to loose sympathy for you guys...

[StouterTaru]

2.55 BRD = juggling 2 balls
3.0 BRD = juggling 2 balls and a cleaver

2.55 BLM = juggling 2 balls
3.0 BLM = juggling 2 balls and a cleaver

They took the simplest 2 dps and made them hard. OMG my easy job now takes skill to do good damage, and if I ignore new mechanics I do mediocre damage. I think the only way they can "fix" this is by adding a new job that the short bus crew can pull off decent damage with. No combos, no skills, one instant ranged attack, just hit one button repeatedly and dodge telegraphed attacks from a distance.

[AnnietheCat]

I think the only way they can "fix" this is by adding a new job that the short bus crew can pull off decent damage with.

That was rude and unnecessary, and honestly using "short bus people" as an insult for people you don't agree with is childish. No one is telling you to not like the changes, and if you don't have anything useful to add to the conversation you should behave like an adult and leave. Especially since this thread is about fixes to bard and not "insult people because we don't agree on something".

[Rikkustrife]

2.55 BRD = juggling 2 balls
3.0 BRD = juggling 2 balls and a cleaver

2.55 BLM = juggling 2 balls
3.0 BLM = juggling 2 balls and a cleaver

They took the simplest 2 dps and made them hard. OMG my easy job now takes skill to do good damage, and if I ignore new mechanics I do mediocre damage. I think the only way they can "fix" this is by adding a new job that the short bus crew can pull off decent damage with. No combos, no skills, one instant ranged attack, just hit one button repeatedly and dodge telegraphed attacks from a distance.

They made blm more difficult I agree, with bard all they did is make it feel a lot slower, it's not more difficult.

I think the best way to fix bard, if we do have to keep wanderer's minuet, is for every bloodletter proc we get an instant weaponskill, that way there would be no isssue using bloodletter after the next weaponskill

[Aiselia]

Ok this is getting a bit tiresome now.

You came into a thread about Bards and changes we want made to Bards to make Bards flow better and brought up Black Mages.

Do you not see the problem here?

This isn't a thread about Black Mages and their changes. They have their own thread(s) for that. This is a thread about Bards. Black Mages are irrelevant to the subject of this thread.

Bard mains do not main Black Mages, so we don't have any reason to think their problems are any more important than ours.

But at least Bards aren't going into BLM threads and telling them to either suck it up and get good or to "just not use it".