Ninja Question with Bis Ex

[Artex]

I'm wondering if this is just me but normally I try to line up my Suiton>TA with when we jump on the back of Bismarck. I have noticed on more than one attempt that my Suiton doesn't go off, in fact, it almost seems to vanish entirely. I'm not waiting too long. Can Suiton miss? I think I'm well over the acc cap for Bismarck but I'm not sure. Any other ninjas notice this behavior?

[Dualblade]

Taking damage takes you out of "Hide" correct? I assume its the same for Suiton (I don't have my Ninja up that high so I wouldn't actually know), but if its the same you take damage almost immediatly after getting on Bismark's back which would cancel it out.

[Artex]

Taking damage takes you out of "Hide" correct? I assume its the same for Suiton (I don't have my Ninja up that high so I wouldn't actually know), but if its the same you take damage almost immediatly after getting on Bismark's back which would cancel it out.

No, using Suiton gives you a buff that allows you to use either TA or SA while in combat. Getting hit would not take the buff off to my knowledge.

[Dualblade]

No, using Suiton gives you a buff that allows you to use either TA or SA while in combat. Getting hit would not take the buff off to my knowledge.

Ah, I see. Possibly lag then, but I'm not sure then. Maybe someone else would know.

[Werewolf]

Did your Suiton land on him before you were on his back (even if only slightly before), since you have to be on his back to damage him; that is the only thing I can think of since I've never had an issue with this myself.

[Artex]

Did your Suiton land on him before you were on his back (even if only slightly before), since you have to be on his back to damage him; that is the only thing I can think of since I've never had an issue with this myself.

Ah! Good point, perhaps I am hitting him with it prior to my character actually being on his back thus nullifying the attack and it's benefit to me for TA. So that being said, any Invulnerable target would cancel out of the effects of Suiton regardless?

[Werewolf]

Ah! Good point, perhaps I am hitting him with it prior to my character actually being on his back thus nullifying the attack and it's benefit to me for TA. So that being said, any Invulnerable target would cancel out of the effects of Suiton regardless?

Yes I believe so, I know you can't land DoT effect if something is Invulnerable, so I'd imagine Suiton effect would be no different.