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    Kiko Cosmos
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    Samurai

    This DPS role will primarily focus on TP managment. They will mirror BLM in the way of having form changes. Astral fire is to attack stance as umbral ice is to def/parry stance. Providing a infinite amount of TP with good management on the players part. As for actual moves, I'll leave that open for discussion. one aspect is that SAM will not typically have cast times unless warranted. such as the final move in attack stance that will use up all TP should a have cast time to compensate for the large amount of damage (like flare).
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    I think it would be interesting to incorporate the BLM playstyle into a melee class. instead of def/perry stance I think it would be better to have raw damage stance and tp regen/self buff stance. I also think it would be fun to tie those into combos as well. You build up a buff that will last through the raw damage stance increasing your damage out put. Each time you do the combo for the buff while your TP is recovering it increases the duration. When it comes to cast times it might become hard to use right but that could go into risk = reward. Maybe have certain really strong skills can have cast times like you said, similar to an iaido sword style.
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    I wouldn't mind a sword draw attack that could be charged like this:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBTRJSfKfDs#t=29s

    I think all jobs could use some custom emotes, but for Samurai I would definitely want a slinging blood off the blade emote.
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    Betting on it being a tank.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Underdog2204 View Post
    Betting on it being a tank.
    Would be a wasted slot with DRK already being a 2h sword user. The DRG armor set is currently just one, so they could add it to that category like they did with MCH to Archer/Bard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrasper View Post
    Would be a wasted slot with DRK already being a 2h sword user. The DRG armor set is currently just one, so they could add it to that category like they did with MCH to Archer/Bard.
    Possibly, still betting on it though xD

    They could just aswell add a different tank armor type and katana weapons for it.

    Let's face it, as it stands atm it would not be the strangest design choice they have made lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Underdog2204 View Post
    Possibly, still betting on it though xD

    They could just aswell add a different tank armor type and katana weapons for it.

    Let's face it, as it stands atm it would not be the strangest design choice they have made lol.
    Maybe, but I highly doubt it. I would like to see a ranged tank instead with it being the Puppet Master.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrasper View Post
    Maybe, but I highly doubt it. I would like to see a ranged tank instead with it being the Puppet Master.
    All physcial ranged are gonna get regen abilites and become this pseudo support style thing with a renamed GB/WM. Magical ranged have yet to be typecast, but I'm sure it's gonna happen to them.

    Not that I wouldn't like something like what you said... But the recent jobs have kinda left me thinking that SE is starting to run out of idea's when it comes to designing new ones.

    Ofc it would be great for them to prove me wrong, but I'm not holding my breath just yet.
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    Last edited by Underdog2204; 07-12-2015 at 10:59 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrasper View Post
    Maybe, but I highly doubt it. I would like to see a ranged tank instead with it being the Puppet Master.
    I really don't understand what kind of mechanics people have in mind when they talk about ranged tanks.

    I mained a Powertech tank in swtor for quite a while, which was often advertised as a ranged tank, and is often referred to when the topic is brought up. But it wasn't a ranged tank. It was a melee tank that happened to also have some ranged abilities. Your core enmity rotation still required you to be in melee, and if you went the dps spec it revolved around melee moves as well.

    I don't really understand how you could maintain being ranged as a tank without the mechanics getting really weird.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Underdog2204 View Post
    Betting on it being a tank.
    They said it was going to be a tank class but it was competing with DRK. They had to look at what each one brought and DRK was more unique in that aspect. If anything it should be a melee dps.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aiselia View Post
    Limit Break would be Zantetsuken.
    I'd prefer a mix of FFX's Yojimbo's Wakizashi and Zanmato.
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    Last edited by VitalSuit; 07-12-2015 at 10:22 PM.

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