Why can't DRGs do their positionals? Live Letter Answer lol

[Arkista]

So this was in the live letter....

Q24. With the new combos for dragoon there are more directional-based requirements and it’s become more difficult to play. Do you have any plans to ease the directional requirements?

A24. Since 3.0 just started, we would like to keep it as it is as there is still room for players to experiment and get used to it. However, there are situations in content where it’s difficult to execute actions from the proper direction, so we would like to make adjustments for this for Patch 3.05.

We will be making job adjustments in Patch 3.05. We'll continue to make adjustments as needed after this, so please send in your feedback.

I'm a MNK, we have to move all the time. Poor DRG has 2 new positionals, and its becoming difficult to play, lol.

EDIT
Want to make a job adjustment in 3.05? Change Fang and Claw to proc after Full Thrust Combo, and Wheeling Thrust to proc after Chaos Thrust Combo. Keep the Positions, just take the RNG out of it. If 4 positionals are too much work and difficult, then I think people should go play a ranged dps or nin.

[Muzetta]

This question just made me facepalm. The new positionals don't make it difficult at all. Just have to move more, that's it. Nothing difficult about that. o.o

Monks would indeed like to say hi.

[IzzyData]

Maybe that implies that they will make adjustments to the content and not the class?

[Arkista]

This question just made me facepalm. The new positionals don't make it difficult at all. Just have to move more, that's it. Nothing difficult about that. o.o

Monks would indeed like to say hi.

I have a 60 DRG alt and I have no issues. Maybe because I've played MNK since Launch. One thing I think it could be, is that a lot of players don't know how the hitbox works. Don't need to be at 90 degree angle for the flank.

Im playing drg and those 2 new positional atks really slows me down and are annoying <.<
Im not using them.
I dont even HAVE those 2 skills in one of my skill bars.

It's really good damage.

Maybe that implies that they will make adjustments to the content and not the class?

If I'm not mistaking they already changed DRG abilities before. Like Heavy Thrust, pretty sure it use to only give you the buff from the flank, now its any where you get buff, but flank is higher pot.

Edit: On monk: I totaly Ignore that "Go there" "atk here" stuff <.< very annoying!
Also: what is faster: Searching for the right spott or continue the next combo atk?

You really shouldn't ignore them, that is a lot of DMG you're missing out on.

[AsahinaMyLove]

Im playing drg and those 2 new positional atks really slows me down and are annoying <.<
Im not using them.
I dont even HAVE those 2 skills in one of my skill bars.

Edit: On monk: I totaly Ignore that "Go there" "atk here" stuff <.< very annoying!
Also: what is faster: Searching for the right spott or continue the next combo atk?

[Sylve]

Edit: When I play as monk I totaly ignore the positionals o.O
whats faster: Searching for the right spott or doing the next combo atk?

Searching for the right spot? Theres only two spots you CAN be!
Punch it in the ass or punch it in the kidney, how is this difficult?

People will cry foul over ANYTHING.

I have a 60 DRG alt and I have no issues. Maybe because I've played MNK since Launch. One thing I think it could be, is that a lot of players don't know how the hitbox works. Don't need to be at 90 degree angle for the flank.




It's really good damage.

If anything, I'd like to see an addition to the hitbox that shows you the angles. Not labelled, just 2 lines inside the red circle indicating where Rear is, because Flank is anywhere Rear is not (because you don't ever go front >_>)

[MisterRuseman]

Im playing drg and those 2 new positional atks really slows me down and are annoying <.<
Im not using them.
I dont even HAVE those 2 skills in one of my skill bars.

Edit: On monk: I totaly Ignore that "Go there" "atk here" stuff <.< very annoying!
Also: what is faster: Searching for the right spott or continue the next combo atk?

people like you give us drg a bad name..

do what yoshi says.

[Sapphic]

Also: what is faster: Searching for the right spott or continue the next combo atk?

Find the sweet spot on the boss and you only have to take one step to the left and right for positionals. Not like ive seen many MNKs who run half way around the boss XD Also you lose a truck load of damage over a long fight by ignoring positional requirements on MNK. Which could mean the difference of beating that enrage timer or getting stomped because DPS was too low.

Think of a circle around the boss, with an X splitting it into 4 parts. the quarter behind the boss is the rear, the 2 quarters either side are the flank, and of course the quarter in front is the front. if you stand just at one side of that line at the back, one step to the side over the line puts you at the flank, one step back puts you at the rear.

Easy XD

[Eidolon]

[b]Also you lose a truck load of damage over a long fight by ignoring positional requirements on MNK. Which could mean the difference of beating that enrage timer or getting stomped because DPS was too low.

Funnily enough, the amount of potency a monk looses if he ignores four consecutive positionals... is not as much as a Dragoon loses for missing one.


Monk skills tend to be a 40 potency difference from their Optimal direction vs. Missing the positional. If a Monk ignored his positionals and missed four back-to-back, he'd only lose 160 potency.
If a dragoon misses a single positional, he has already lost 190 potency. That is almost a free fifth missed positional for monk.

I believe this is the point other dragoons are making. The amount of potency lost is rediculous by comparison to other jobs. It's back to being just as bad as missing your positional on Impulse Drive / Heavy Thrust. It becomes a 100 potency attack. Thank goodness we at least get the +15 seconds from it or there would be blood right now for this.

But to say the least, when a Monk could in effect miss the same number of positionals as a Dragoon takes to build a 4-hit combo and still come out ahead in terms of net potency gain, do you not find it a bit rediculous?