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  1. #101
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    I_Punch_Bees's Avatar
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    Eistella Carragrove
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 42
    Quote Originally Posted by Galgarion View Post
    I think she meant a scholar.
    Hm ... don't think so.

    But I can't ... remember. They kept saying they weren't going to heal us etc. *shrugs*

    Either way, it was just crap that someone was blaming the tank who was doing nothing wrong.
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  2. #102
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    I_Punch_Bees's Avatar
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    Eistella Carragrove
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 42
    Quote Originally Posted by Buff_Archer View Post
    What I think people overlooked about MrCook's post is he was referring to a level 35 class with no job stone, vs just any level 35 player. this not something you see much anyway, most people know how getting a job stone works by the time they get to lvl 30 [snip]
    I didn't know job stones were necessary. It actually blew the mind of a few people from my FC, but I explained that I came from a game that once you were a class you STAYED that class (EverQuest). So I started as a Pugilist and just kept going, until I reached Qarn and people said I should go become a Monk.

    I actually thought getting the stones would keep me from learning all the stuff from the base class.

    So make sure you don't start calling someone an idiot or stupid or whatever w/o first finding out things. If you are a person that drops groups because someone is new to a dungeon, ..... remember you were new once. Don't be a dick.
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  3. #103
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    Rina_Leonhart's Avatar
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    Rina Leonhart
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    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 80
    Only thing that makes me leave is if it is super obvious the group won't be able to handle the place. Even then though I will still wait most times (if someone else leaves) for the group to fill again. Why? It's simple. I. am. dps. The wait times are so ridiculous sometimes it is just faster to wait for another person or two to come in and try to see if they will be effective enough to get us through the place. It drives me crazy though when it seems most people finally got the fight down and one more shot may get the kill, only for some impatient person to just up and leave. If it's the tank, half the time it kills the group altogether.
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  4. #104
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    NeoFreud's Avatar
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    Character
    Weak Sauce
    World
    Lich
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 51
    I dropped a group today during my first run of Qarn. I'd never run it before, and told the group so. Unfortunately, nobody in my group spoke English, so nobody could explain what was happening when a doom counter went up. The tank wasn't keeping enmity, so I was too busy dodging assaults from the boss and healing Final Stings from Wespes on the rest of the party to survey the area and see the stone that my FC tells me I'm meant to stand on.

    I kept trying to ask what I was meant to do, but the only repy I got was "plz be good" and various /slap and /angry aimed at me. Last wipe was the tank not tanking, saying "I don't heal stupid."

    So if there's a special mechanic I need to know for a dungeon, I can't figure it out, and the rest of the party is simultaneously becoming abusive and not helping me figure out the mechanic and we wipe repeatedly, I'll abandon. I might start reading up on dungeons before running them, though it'll take some of the joy of discovery from me.
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  5. #105
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    Kuwaitum's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Ivory Spirit
    World
    Faerie
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 100
    Ither than Duty Abondon, I am usually never a quitter. Yet I leave duty on several occasions, most reoccurring:

    1. When I tank, and a DPS goes D/C (unintentionally), I ask to wait for 3-4 min till he/she returns online or we can dismiss. But; both Healer and DPS vote dismiss. I tell them that I respect DPS waiting time and disrespect impatient people, good luck finding a tank to queue in-progress. I also do same when I heal.

    2. As a tank, where DPS/healer tend to pull before I do and they insist on pulling. I say "I don't think you need a tank." and quit.

    3. As a healer seeing tank pulling every mob (wishing he could pull the bosses too), when he isn't even properly geared up and don't want to do smaller pulls stating that he wants a fast clear (some even 1st timers).

    4. When I usually joined 1st time extreme primal and I don't preform well, and I know I am bad. I apologize, admit my lack in my skills as a 1st time runner and I dont feel comfortable to waste more time of the other 7 who want to have fun. So I queue and repeat till I get it right without the guilt feeling.

    Other than that, I'm a patient tank/healer. Always stand with the DPSs, especially if 1st time runner and doing their only and main class/job.
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  6. #106
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    Galgarion's Avatar
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    Character
    Famine Cruor
    World
    Mateus
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 70
    Didn't get to play yesterday, so I was hoping to get yesterday's dailies done this morning before reset. Got saddled with two slow dps and a healer with a taste for suicide. I can always tell when a dragoon sucks just by watching the threat meter: If I can hold aggro without using my threat combo, then he isn't even trying.

    Whatever, I'm patient. It takes a while, but we made it to the last boss in Dezmel Darkhold, no wipes, and the healer only died twice. (The siren's call of glowing circles on the ground was too irresistible, I guess.) Kill this guy, then hope for an easy trial, nothing to it. Except the boss shuts us down harder than Richard Sherman on bull shark testosterone. Four wipes, all proceeded by the healer dying first and blaming her cat, then her lag, then her luck. I didn't get her fourth excuse because I was out of there faster than Woody Allen at a storm front convention.

    Spent too much time in the dungeon, and the server reset while I was gnashing my teeth and not typing mean things in party chat. Man makes plans and God LAUGHS.
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    Last edited by Galgarion; 08-14-2015 at 11:16 PM.

  7. #107
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    Famine Cruor
    World
    Mateus
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by NeoFreud View Post
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    Just watch MTcaptured's dungeon guide videos on youtube. She doesn't spoil anything story related and her videos are short and get straight to the point. Don't trust pugs to be useful or friendly.
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  8. #108
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    Character
    Flickering Ember
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 60
    I drop a group if DPS/healers try to force a speed run or if more than one party member is a huge jerk.
    I rarely ever drop out of impatience or due to multiple wipes. I stick it out to the end if I can but if I need to go somewhere in real life then I will need to drop if the dungeon is taking longer than expected.
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  9. #109
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    EmeraldAres's Avatar
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    Green Bird Forest
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    Character
    Emerald Ares
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 80
    "What makes you drop a group?" Group members being too picky when everything is going fine, or group members being excessively hostile.

    Example of the first: I was healing a Qarn HM on my WHM before the expansion dropped, with a tank whose exact job I can't remember and two black mages. They started to complain about me not using holy enough when I was already low on mana from trying to keep them alive, so I cut my losses and left.

    Example of the second: I decided to tank again for the first time since before heavensward dropped, so I queued up for AV to get some practice in. Maybe not the best choice, but I figured it would kick me into shape and I already spent my leveling roulette finishing BLM. First two healers drop, but I stick it out and wait for one to stay.

    Problem is, the third healer decides they want massive pulls and keeps insisting on big pulls in the first room of AV. It's not exactly the best environment for that. While it's very possible to do for an experienced group, I was still trying to get a handle on tanking again. The healer demands I pull more, so I do. I go down from a lack of healing spells and then get berated as the group wipes.

    I just said "bye" and ate the penalty. I wasn't going to do AV with a healer who more than likely would have continued to make my life miserable for the entire run. Went full strength and proceeded to go smash FATES and gain two levels, more progress than I've made in a single day in a while now.

    These are rare instances, of course. I generally heal the majority of my roulette content with the exception of an odd leveling roulette for one of my dps jobs here or there, and I can count the number of times I've left a group like that qarn on one hand. I can certainly understand why tank queues are so quick, though. I'll stick to healing, things seem to work out much better that way.
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