What makes you drop a group?

[Taika]

Just dropped my first group today. The healer, a Summoner, literally let the tank die twice, blaming the tank for standing in something. Which was false as I was a DPS and the tank was doing their job.

Then when I called the Summoner out that the tank was not standing in anything, they just didn't heal them, they called me an f-ing idiot.

Apparently they decided to DPS the whole time and blame the tank for their lack of knowing their class. *shrug* No loss, as all they did was complain the entire time about everything.

Those summoners, always DPSing the whole time.

[Galgarion]

I think she meant a scholar.

[I_Punch_Bees]

I think she meant a scholar.

Hm ... don't think so.

But I can't ... remember. They kept saying they weren't going to heal us etc. *shrugs*

Either way, it was just crap that someone was blaming the tank who was doing nothing wrong.

[Buff_Archer]

What I think people overlooked about MrCook's post is he was referring to a level 35 class with no job stone, vs just any level 35 player. this not something you see much anyway, most people know how getting a job stone works by the time they get to lvl 30 because they've asked their FC a million questions about it. Once their 'how do I get my chocobo?' days have passed, of course. I saw like one THM in end game content in the last couple months and that was because when they reinstalled the game they didn't realize their job stone unequipped and they joined our group as a THM thinking they were on BLM still.

[I_Punch_Bees]

What I think people overlooked about MrCook's post is he was referring to a level 35 class with no job stone, vs just any level 35 player. this not something you see much anyway, most people know how getting a job stone works by the time they get to lvl 30 [snip]

I didn't know job stones were necessary. It actually blew the mind of a few people from my FC, but I explained that I came from a game that once you were a class you STAYED that class (EverQuest). So I started as a Pugilist and just kept going, until I reached Qarn and people said I should go become a Monk.

I actually thought getting the stones would keep me from learning all the stuff from the base class.

So make sure you don't start calling someone an idiot or stupid or whatever w/o first finding out things. If you are a person that drops groups because someone is new to a dungeon, ..... remember you were new once. Don't be a dick.

[Meow9000]

I will drop a group if players are playing their job poorly AND refuse to take any sort of constructive criticism, especially if Im being nice about it. Ninja's not using poisons or Huton, Monks not aware of positionals, BLM's spamming fire 3, etc etc. I always try to let a player know as nicely as possible that they can be making better use of their skills. I dont expect anyone to play perfectly but I do expect for you to have an understanding of your job and atleast make use of all the skills and tools given to you, or atleast be willing to improve when someone offers you advice on how you can play your job better. I can understand if someone is a dick and says "HEY U, GIT GUD OR GIT OUT", but people who can't take a generous suggestion are what make me drop groups.

[DarkmoonVael]

Dropped ex roulette yesterday (Fractual Continuum) due to a tank, ilvl 185ish, pulling as small as possible. I found out for the first time that there are individual enemies that can be pulled on the way to the first boss O.o. We said polietely that he can pull more mobs, i can heal through it, and the BRD and BLM were more than capable of killing things fast, but nope. Response we got was the tank was in no hurry......took us 12+ mins to get to the first boss since he kept pausing after we killed things as well.

So having people deliberately waste others time and slow the run down i suppose is what makes me drop a group.

[Darkstride]

I've recently experienced a lot of FARM parties in PF where we enter and then all of a sudden the "bonus tomes" message pops up. This is then followed by people standing around trying to figure out who has not cleared the content while the culprit either remains silent or blatantly lies. I had one Ravana Ex group with a WAR who just said "I've cleared it but I can't prove it". We eventually just went for it. We wiped a couple of times and eventually cleared and guess who got a clear achievement ....the Warrior. The best part was that he complained that Prey was passed off to him....

So, in short, liars will make me drop a party. If you're new or inexperienced, be upfront about it and dont join a PF group that specifically states that the group is for farming and no tome bonus. Don't be shady and try to get yourself a clear by sneaking in and being carried.

[Amiaze]

I only leave when someone is exceedingly rude to me. Nothing else really matters. I don't mind if we wipe over and over again -- I find that the chaos can be fun sometimes, and I'm not pressed to get something down on the spot. I like to take my time with things. I don't even mind if we end up with a bot, because it makes it more of a challenge for 3 or 7 people to clear something.
As a rule of thumb, I generally don't say a whole lot in dungeons unless other people are already talkative, and I try to ignore snotty remarks until it becomes clear that someone's attitude is affecting the dungeon/raid. I hate when players start getting upset after a single wipe due to a mechanical issue, or they start berating others without reason. I find that actions often speak louder than words, so...

-As a healer, if I find that someone is rude to my party or myself, I won't leave unless the tank does. If someone starts trying to speed run ahead of the tank, I simply won't heal you. I don't want to die, and I don't want someone to think that it's okay to paper-tank when it isn't.

-As a tank, I'll slow down and walk through a dungeon if you're rude to me. I'll let the person leave and take their penalty or attempt to vote-kick me, but I'm normally not alone when I queue, so the vote-kick won't pass anyway.

-As a DPS, I'm far more quick to leave because I have little control over how the dungeon is run, and another DPS is bound to show up the moment I leave anyway. I find it more offensive when a tank or healer is rude than a DPS, but I also think that they have a little more responsibility not to be rude because they are proponents that a party cannot do without.

[Athrelor_Oakroot]

I don't generally mind if someone's new and needs to have certain things explained, but if you're not going to try and learn mechanics, that's when I get annoyed and might leave after several wipes.

I mostly play Healer so the things that annoy me most are probably DPS charging into a fight before the tank (probably annoys a tank too) and also tanks with an attitude :P Running Great Gubal Library and the tank charged into the boss fight, I only had 2k/11k MP, and this was whilst we were waiting for another DPS to join as well, as he'd kicked the last one for "not doing enough AOE" so with that little MP I just didn't walk in, he and the other DPS both died, I explained that he should have waited for my MP to regen, wouldn't have taken a lot of time off our run, but he just started yelling at me, so situations like that are probably my most favoured case for leaving.