Actually, I'm gonna elaborate more on my last post. But first, understand that this post is out of frustration with SE cause i know they can do better. So you got me thinking: What more do I get from FF than from ESO at this point? Im playing both, so just putting a stop to the idiots that will say, "then leave and don't play". I want this game to be great, so...

FF:
Must pay a sub (11.99 lowest i think?) in order to just play the game
Sub gives you access to servers
Frequent patches and updates, news, etc

ESO:
No sub(optional sub of 15.00)
access to servers with or without sub
Frequent patches, updates, news, etc. with or without Sub

Now I'm not gonna talk about gameplay and such, I play both and they are both good games. The graphics are more detailed in ESO that FF; gameplay for both is solid(except the BRD thing SE!!!!!!!). And the story is good for both, with ESO, to me, beating out SE due to voice acting. So how is not having a sub a bad thing for an mmo when they offer the same things as a "must have sub to play" game? And I ask people before they go off on my response, if they even played ESO? I play on PS4 so I don't know how PC is but ESO is like Skyrim on crack.