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    Garlyle's Avatar
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    Alvis Yune
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    Now, sane with food. When was the last time you not eating some chestnuts cost you a run, especially in endgame?
    This right here is basically the evidence you've never actually been to endgame.
    Whens the last time you killed every mob in a dungeon for exp?
    or maybe gone level grinding, for that matter
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    The OP does have many bad suggestions but don't overlook the very good one! Being able to re-queue with randoms. If i'm with a random group in df that does great I'd love the choice to do it again with them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orbiaus View Post
    The OP does have many bad suggestions but don't overlook the very good one! Being able to re-queue with randoms. If i'm with a random group in df that does great I'd love the choice to do it again with them.
    it is but I am not sacrificed all this

    Quote Originally Posted by Unglitteringold View Post
    If improvements can't be made to things because of over taxing the servers, I think FFXIV should trim some of the fat from the game.
    Things I think FFXIV can get rid of:
    - Guildheists
    - Potions
    - Food
    - Chocobo fighting
    - Hunting/Sightseeing logs
    - City to City Airships
    - Treasure Chests
    - Linkshells
    - Irrelevant quest lines (Ultima's Bane, Relic Weapon, etc)
    for that one thing
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    Syanonn Rias
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    Hope just some expanation:
    Guildheists - Yes they are suppose to teach you how to party play, but they are really nothing more than an exp boost now. People do guildheist roulettes everyday for the exp and GC seals.

    Potions - For end game raiders - no matter if it is the +STR/DEX/INT potions to squeeze out that extra damage to pass a DPS check or just MP pot to let out that extra flare, people use it.

    Food - Again, more useful for progression raiders like the Binding Coil when it has no echo or nerfs - any extra damage, any extra HP (it can add a few hundred) helps surviving stuff.

    Chocobo fighting - Just a companion to help you kill things fasters and/or heal you. They aren't that much help but better than nothing. Example: it allowed me to kill lv59 mobs at lv50 for daily marks because my bird heals me.

    Hunting/Sightseeing logs - Both Exp boosts, and achievement for those people that care about achievement points and stuff. It helps leveling especially before all the exp boost, roulettes and other stuff that came out.

    City to City Airships - I think it was more for the story component - I would say for your first time traveling from 1 city to another, you used the airship and not walked there as you didn't have the aetheryte attuned yet.

    Treasure Chests - What's wrong with it? To get gear and stuff?

    Linkshells - I have multiple linkshells, talking to friends outside of the FC or raids or for hunts. Some friends I made were in their own FC already, Linkshell give me an easier way to communicate.

    Irrelevant quest lines (Ultima's Bane, Relic Weapon, etc) - Relic weapons were top tier weapons, fully upgraded at lv50 was even better than Dreadwyrm weapon - the best raid weapon. And other Primal/Ultima fights provided gear/weapons for players - unfortunately became irrelevant once the ilvl raises in vertical progression game.
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    Fabian Wafflemeister
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    Guildhest: basically a playing 101 for basic situations, i can see how it can seem useless now that you plow through low lv content.

    potions: there hasn't been a moment when i see my healers of endgame static not using mp/status potions even poison pots helped clear t13

    Food: again i dare you do coil/alex savage without food and try to clear it before nerf.

    Treasure Chests: I use the drops all the time to sell/desynth/gear up/get grand company seals.

    Chocobo: Instead of asking help all the time when people are busy i use chocobo to do some things fast.

    Hunting/sightseeing logs: they are kinda of point of view from developers that from that point you can see something beautiful they have created and i've got some of my favorite screenshots from them

    City Airship: yeah people with very low gil use them but for me it just there to make it feel a bit more alive. (the game)

    Linkshells: lets see... i have my fc, my ls for closest friends, my ls for alliance between my fc and another fc, my ls for fishermen who help each other with info, and my hunt ls that sends me news of hunts... now i ask how can you not find a use for it?

    Irrelevant Quest lines: made because people ask for more content which becomes abandoned as another fight until someone bored does it again in lv cap to remember how challenging it was originally and if you erase it people would say this game has no content or diversity and everything old disappears and leaves nothing to do when you want to rechallenge yourself.
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    Wait, like me how?
    Your entire argument is "I don't use these things and I haven't made an effort to understand how or why people might use these things or find value in them, so they should go".

    Which is crappy.

    Not everyone plays in the same way as you, or has the same experiences or desires as you do. Don't bother using your chocobo companion? That's your choice and I respect that. Don't want to get a party together to do old content? That's fine, not everyone does. Don't see the purpose in Guildhests since you've already learned the lessons elsewhere theoretically? That's okay, they're not targetted at people in your position. Etc etc...

    I fail to see how your lack of interest in certain features justifies cutting them because basically everything in the game could be argued 'cuttable' if we're using "someone out there doesn't do it" as a judgment.
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    If you don't use potions you're being an absolute *bleep* you your healers in endgame. Even in raids like CT and ST, potions to top yourself off so your healer doesn't have to is common courtesy in my eyes. But hey ho let the healer pick it up right? If we wipe it's their fault <if you can't tell that was a cheap try at sarcasm>.

    BTW guildheists teach brand new mmo players how to heal, how to tank and how to gtfo of the aoe. But still people make the same mistakes. Such is life eh?

    Anyway pots & food are always needed. If you ain't using endgame you need ro have a quick chat with your FC.
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    Once again, Its not about how i play. I'm not forcing any of you to play like I have, which is apparently wrong cause I don't pop potions every time they cool down or eat food before every dungeon. What I'm saying is they seem to not have a huge negative effect if not used. I rarely use potions endgame, which I have played before HW, and I've had a lot of success. I only wiped if I wasn't paying attention or didn't know mechanic. I want SE to succeed, I love FF, but people like you that are bashing peoples opinions and name calling and trying to humiliate, that's the major problem with this game. I feel like there are more children playing this game than there was playing FFXI. The maturity level here is very low.

    And the fact that you keep saying "endgame", this game isn't all about "endgame". or it shouldn't be. The way its going now, its not gonna last long. SE has to improve things. Finally, I was just agreeing with the op's question about about why these things are relevant. Damn...people always looking to fight on these forums.
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    Quote Originally Posted by QiLymePye View Post
    Once again, Its not about how i play. I'm not forcing any of you to play like I have, which is apparently wrong cause I don't pop potions every time they cool down or eat food before every dungeon. What I'm saying is they seem to not have a huge negative effect if not used. I rarely use potions endgame, which I have played before HW, and I've had a lot of success. I only wiped if I wasn't paying attention or didn't know mechanic. I want SE to succeed, I love FF, but people like you that are bashing peoples opinions and name calling and trying to humiliate, that's the major problem with this game. I feel like there are more children playing this game than there was playing FFXI. The maturity level here is very low.

    And the fact that you keep saying "endgame", this game isn't all about "endgame". or it shouldn't be. The way its going now, its not gonna last long. SE has to improve things. Finally, I was just agreeing with the op's question about about why these things are relevant. Damn...people always looking to fight on these forums.
    And everyone is just disagreeing with your points. Damn... people can't take being disagreed with on these forums.
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    Quote Originally Posted by QiLymePye View Post
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    If we're going to make broad comments about the attitudes of this forum, all I have to say is that, within this thread, your argument can be boiled down to "Potions aren't relevant to me personally and their continued existance is evidence the game is failing and it's the death of XIV" which is one of the most forum-esque things I've ever heard
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