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  1. #71
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    Ashkendor's Avatar
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    Ashkendor Zahirr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zfz View Post
    I didn't know about this, but I've always just stayed right in front of the manipulator because that's just natural for a tank, although the one time I STed in the DF, I found the other tank to stay behind each of the forelegs.

    What beam exactly are you talking about?
    Perpetual Ray. When the blue stun resist buff goes off (steam also comes out of the leg) the Manipulator will use it on someone. I'm pretty sure it targets a random person for a moderate amount of damage. I focus target the right leg and target the left leg, then stand between them so both of them are reachable because it can be either one.
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  2. #72
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    Celenir Istarkh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashkendor View Post
    Perpetual Ray. When the blue stun resist buff goes off (steam also comes out of the leg) the Manipulator will use it on someone. I'm pretty sure it targets a random person for a moderate amount of damage. I focus target the right leg and target the left leg, then stand between them so both of them are reachable because it can be either one.
    Hm. I know about the random target Perpetual Ray in P1 and P2, but never though it could be blocked. Are you sure it can be blocked by standing in front? In P3 it only ever targets the MT no matter where you stand, but there's really no reason for the MT to move around in P3 anyway. I'm gonna have to relay this info to our healers and see if they felt P1+2 to be any different when tanks don't stand right in the front.
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    Last edited by Zfz; 07-15-2015 at 04:16 PM.
    “There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.”
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  3. #73
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    Rui Ooshima
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    In response to the 3 persons who have responded to my earlier comment:

    Yes there is nothing wrong taking it easy and being casual. What I said was that Malboro is bad if you are serious about raiding, because that server population as a whole is very casual in general. My quote on their server firsts was used as an illustration on how casual and taking things easy they can be, that explains why they are slower than other servers.

    If OP is fine with that then by all means. However he started this thread to complain how people screws up badly on a story mode content that is on the second week of its release and his failure to find enough interested people to run the content, hints that he is not content with the situation.

    In servers that are more serious on raiding, like the community in Tonberry, people have cleared all turns between anywhere from 2-4hrs after patch release and PF starts to be filled with people seeking to clear the later turns or farm them. That is one way to measure things. On the other hand people who takes it easy might even take one month to clear this story mode content. That is seemingly what Malboro is.

    It depends on what you want. OP seems to want to clear content more efficiently with expectations that more people are interested in raiding at a higher level and thus my assessment that Malboro is not the place for him.
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  4. #74
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ooshima View Post
    r u f**king serious
    Yes, I "r f**king serious..", are you? lol. If you are one of these server stat fixated, obtuse elitist, know it all from birth -- your a lost cause, I can't help you. That said, I hope never to run with you. No hard feelings. Mr. Happy vids worked for me with all coils, biz & rav, and A1-A4.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zfz View Post
    .."When you hear this macro.."
    Thanks for being part of the solution. This is brilliant and actually worked bringing people somewhat up to speed as soon as incorporated this approach. I included a link the Mr. Happy Video to spread awareness.

    Quote Originally Posted by adn View Post
    A4 is indeed a very hard healer check but honestly I love it...
    I refuse to carry people if they don't know the fight, bother to watch the vids, or ask for help. I will dismiss myself and eat the 30 minutes.
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  5. #75
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zfz View Post
    Hm. I know about the random target Perpetual Ray in P1 and P2, but never though it could be blocked...
    It can be stunned lest it hits lets say a confused DPS who swallowed 1 to 2 orbs followed byPRay. It's importan to note that dying by PRay gives the boss a PERMA dmg stack making the fight much harder.

    You will see the eye charge up as steam discharges from EITHER leg. The boss is not omni-directional which means you can stand behind it to see the charge up bar before it unleashes the pew-pew. This is why I suggested tanks to stand in between or behind the boss for awareness. So far 2 runs where a huge success when this was mitigated along with keeping the jag dolls apart to avoid 4x debuff of death.
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  6. #76
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    Quote Originally Posted by adn View Post
    A4 is indeed a very hard healer check but honestly I love it. A1-3 are all DPS checks and as a healer I get so tired of getting stuck with bad DPS and feeling like I can't do anything more than pop into cleric stance as much as I can and sometimes even that's not enough to beat the enrage timer lol. I honestly prefer A4 to A3. So many enrages because of comically slow DPS.

    Honestly HW in general seems to be heavier on DPS checks. I was glad to finally see a fight where you really got tested on your healers.
    My brain might explode the next time I see someone call this fight a healer check. I just don't understand.

    People sucking at lethal mechanics does not make a fight a healer check >.>

    A healer check would be a fight with such intense, constant, unavoidable outgoing damage that it strains your healers to keep up with it. So far there is nothing in this expansion that has been a healer check, not even close. A fight that has clearly defined mechanics that either make you take next to no damage if you do them right or tons of damage if you do them wrong is NOT a healer check.
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    Last edited by MisterLucie; 07-16-2015 at 04:52 AM.

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    A4.. DPS Wake Up Call

    Quote Originally Posted by MisterLucie View Post
    My brain might explode the next time I see someone call this fight a healer check.
    I agree, and it's typical to deflect incompetence over to the healers - surprisingly in forums as well. It's only a healer check if you take it upon yourself as a healer to "carry" a dps weak pug. I'll give the run a few tries and if the parser starts to complain of abuse - I'll take a 30m and move on to fishing as a CD. This is arguably a dps check. DPS need to shift from the scripted paradigm and actually work in tandem to help prevent, and mitigate damage, all this while bringing down the boss effectively. The faster the boss is downed the fewer chances bad RNG can wipe the party. i.e. OT eats 3 orbs, and that PRay finishes them off.
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  8. #78
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    Ayuh'ra Bajhiri
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    As a static-less person who lives in Duty Finder my only real issue with Burden is lack of patience. I like to think I'm decent enough at this fight... I don't drag adds into other players, I don't go after orbs if someone else is, I certainly don't eat more than one orb at a time, I intercept lasers, I keep on my targets, I use my magey cooldowns to avoid damage when I can, I don't hug healers in phase 3.... I know the dance. But a lot of people still do not and everyone else seems unwilling to let them learn.

    NOW. If you are unable to down the second leg after a few attempts I can understand vote abandoning. Sometimes it just seems like there will be no victory with certain groups. But almost every time I've done Burden we will get halfway through or 3/4 the last phase, wipe, then someone vote abandons. That drives me nuts. COME ON GUYS IT'S NOT SO BAD, WE CAN DO THIS...
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    Last edited by Ayuhra; 07-16-2015 at 05:19 AM.

  9. #79
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    Tetsu Taru
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zfz View Post
    The WHM and SCH in our FC have very different views. They both say it's not a healer check at all, but a dps stupidity check.
    10000% agreed.

    The only thing 'endgame' thing I'd say even approaches a healing intensive fight is phase 2 of bismarck ex.
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    Last edited by ckc22; 07-16-2015 at 06:21 AM.

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