Looking on peoples opinions on Chakra

[Corbec]

I have been raiding on monk and find that of all the abilities gained in 3.0, chakra stacks seem to be relatively useless, in most fights. I use it for opener and unless its a fight like Ravana, that has a decent amount of down time, i find myself form shifting with no time to built stacks. Also the idea of a TP regain is great but unless you save your stacks till you need it, in a fight that has a long enough pause to build the 5 you wont need the regain anyway since the down time is a natural TP regen. and to work it into a rotation is just a no go the gain in the high potency hit is not offset by losing 5 gcds to build. Anyway, would like to see what others think

[Garlyle]

Chakra isn't necessarily intended to be a part of every single fight. If you never have to disengage from a target (eg the first boss of the Fractal Continuum), then you won't have time to build it - but that's okay; you're in your best situation anyway, and that's not where you're meant to be using Meditation. Sometimes Form Changing will take precidence when you do have to disengage, and that's fine too!

Chakra is a bonus to help us out on those times where we do have extended disengages. It's also there for the opposite time - where we've literally exhausted our TP. If you reach the end of your TP bar, alternate attacks and Chakra stacks; you'll maintain GL3, and then bam in about two combos you'll hit a button and be back running at full steam for assumedly long enough to get your Invigorate off cooldown. Monk parses theoretically have no limit anymore - we just have a brief period where our DPS drops a bit when we're low on TP, and then it's back up.

Point is, Chakra, Form Shift, even Tornado Kick aren't meant to be used all the time. And that's fine. The only tool we got for constant addition to our core, optimum-condition steady rotation was Elixir Drive (and Should Tackle being more useable without having to range).

[AniCelestine]

In case you haven't seen this: https://youtu.be/hphogM-qwMk

Sure, when does a 20min or longer fight come in? Doubtfully never, but imo it's impressive compared to some of the other dps parses where they hit 1150ish for 3-4 min and be out of tp, while monk could sustain basically infinite amount of time over 1k dps, which in turn takes one tp class off of needing a goad which possibly would let bard not have to sing army's paeony which in turn would save the bard a good chunk of dps vs a loss of 100~ for mnk.

So no, imo these aren't useless at all, more situational than other jobs' new skills? Surely, but not outright useless.

Edit:

But then again, how much does brd lose dps when singing a tp song?
How much dps they gain from having a drg in the party?
Can a ninja alone supply enough tp if there's a mnk in the party?
But if there's nin + mnk do you have room for drg + brd?
Is brd necessary in that case?
Can you swap drg+brd to blm+smn in that case?

So yeah, now that I got another break from work to ponder this, it isn't so easy to say if that 1k dps for 20+min is really so game breaking.

[Maddrox]

Not a big fan , I'm ok with the damage and the fact its not made to spam but with everything else going on in a fight I feel it could have been better implemented , Make it like wrath stacks or anything just don't make me run around trying to charge it with other stuff going on in a fight , even between phases I forget to charge it up which means I don't use it as much as I could, I would like to see them make the classes easier and more fun to play rather than making them so complicated.

[Almalexia]

I've made good use of Purification during A2 and A4. Those pockets of 1-3 Meditations keeps monk going forever.

Like Ani says: we aren't tethered to BRD/NIN anymore for sustained DPS. 5500 crits on Ravana are great, but I think Purification is the real winner in 3.0.

[SakiKojiro]

My only problem with it is how long it takes "The Forbidden Chakra" To actually land. Getting fully stacked, I never feel like there's a good time in my rotation to let it rip. I'm wasting time I could be using on my rotation.

During 1-2 stacks of greased lightning you can just let it rip for less damage, and it won't take any time off your rotation, but at 3 stacks not somuch.

[Garlyle]

My only problem with it is how long it takes "The Forbidden Chakra" To actually land. Getting fully stacked, I never feel like there's a good time in my rotation to let it rip. I'm wasting time I could be using on my rotation.

During 1-2 stacks of greased lightning you can just let it rip for less damage, and it won't take any time off your rotation, but at 3 stacks not somuch.

Considering the potency of it is basically two GCDs worth of damage, I'm fine with it delaying things by half a second.

[Aeliott]

Actually, to be fair to Purification (tp restore) - I've found myself using it a few times in Alex 4.
The logic that if you have enough time to charge it up you shouldn't need the restore is almost universally true, however in this fight I've found that if I can charge up to 5 in the downtime between the 2nd leg dying and the final phase - sometimes I'll need that extra TP kick in the last phase as from there on it's basically a training dummy for dps. I haven't needed it every single time, sometimes it depends how much down time I have in the prior phases, like whether or not I get quarantined and if I have to chase any Jagd Dolls around. And also whether or not I can hold Greased Lightning between quarantine exit animations and phase shifts. But sometimes I have needed it. This is without Goad / Paeon / Spire cards etc though. And besides, even if it gets close to the end and you know you won't actually need the TP, you can just Forbidden Chakra then (or wait for buffs to boost it but you catch my drift). In this situation you know you won't have down-time so it doesn't actually matter when you use the skill, holding off on FC in case you might need the TP isn't causing you to lose anything. Of course, in other fights where you know there'll be further downtime this isn't the case.

Purification is a lackluster skill in most situations, but I've really been glad for it sometimes in this fight. Having the opportunity to charge it up doesn't necessarily mean that downtime is going to see to all your TP needs - especially when that downtime comes prior to an extended phase of non-stop dps like in this example. Also if we had Purification back in T8 I can imagine holding onto your pre-fight stacks for that.