Should Defiance affect ALL healing received?

[Argyle_Darkheart]

As I am sure many of you are aware, actions that increase the healing input/output via healing magic (Defiance, Convalescence, Mantra, Divine Seal, Fey Illumination, Dissipation) do not affect healing abilities, or really anything besides healing spells.

Prior to Heavensward, Defiance and Shield Oath (Grit) were pretty much on par with one other in terms of their base effect. That is, 20% damage reduction is equal to, in effect, 25% more HP and 25% more healing. While Defiance only has 20% more healing, rather than 25%, it's about equal.

Now, with the inclusion of multiple potency-based healing abilities (Lustrate, Indomitability, Asylum, Assize, Tetragrammaton, Essential Dignity, Collective Unconscious), Defiance has fallen a bit behind. Shield Oath and Grit, however, do receive more effective healing from any and all potency-based healing sources.

Do you think that Defiance's base effect should be, or is supposed to be, weaker than Shield Oath's and Grit's, in this fashion?

Furthermore, if you're interested, how do you feel about other actions that affect healing input/output? Should those affect non-spell potency-based healing as well?

Discuss.

[Calib0s]

Yes, it should at least affect all incoming healing spells and abilities.

Warriors should not be strictly worse than the other two tanks when it comes to receiving Emergency healing. This is an extremely poor choice.

[SpookyGhost]

There's literally no reason for them not to, as Defiance is meant to be an equivalent to ShO/Grit.

[ValkyrieL]

First thing came to mind after changes was warrior OT on T7 savage adds.. but can do unsync now.

[stoxastic]

It's a nerf, but WARs will be able to live with it. Tanks are different, WAR is weaker in some aspects and stronger then others. The ability to seamlessly stance dance without breaking combo is amazing and WAR Dps is unrivalled. Storms eye/path also mean that WAR isn't going anywhere, still the best tank in the game.

We also have our own emergency heal in equilibrium and only tank that can cross class second wind. We'll manage.

[AckersFury]

It's a nerf, but WARs will be able to live with it. Tanks are different, WAR is weaker in some aspects and stronger then others. The ability to seamlessly stance dance without breaking combo is amazing and WAR Dps is unrivalled. Storms eye/path also mean that WAR isn't going anywhere, still the best tank in the game.

We also have our own emergency heal in equilibrium and only tank that can cross class second wind. We'll manage.

except it isnt :P

[Launched]

Yes, Defiance should be equal to the other tank stances. PLD and DRK both get healed for more by every single healing ability. Convalescence, Mantra etc. don't need to be changed to do the same, but Defiance needs it so that it's not harder to heal WARs (even if it's not a huge difference).

[Giantbane]

Yes, I don't see any good reason why it shouldn't. Convalescence should work on these abilities too.

[Kiteless]

Having to make such a distinction between different healing skills is pretty silly as is. Regardless of balance purposes, it should be changed for the sake of consistency at least.

[Verdan]

Yeah I hate the difference between healing abilities and skills because it means that things that I'd normally think of boosting all my healing actually only boost some of my healing, but I never considered how it makes warriors get less effective healing from emergency abilities now.