Syrcus Tower upgrade items are now useless.

[T2teddy]

Starting with the Defenders of Eorzea section of the MSQ chain, as of the launch of the Xpac, quest rewards are the full i110 gear kit.

We Vanilla folk, ran ST a gazillion times so we could get the tomestones, oils and sands to upgrade the weathered gear from Auriana/Aeliana to that 110 level.

Nobody needs them now SE, BUT you still have those SAME UPGRADE ITEMS in the loot chest for Amon and Xande!
Why not switch in an encrypted tomestone, a carbontwine, and a carboncoat in each of those loot chests.

The Ironworks i120 upgradable gear is still practical to use up to level 53-54 but having to wait possibly 13 weeks to get all the items needed for just one job, is sort of counteracting your desire to get new people into HW with the best gear possible.

Keep the weekly quest for those Ironworks upgrades if you so desire, since giving new players more chances to get the upgrade items asap seems a solid idea imho.

[Kuwaitum]

[B]Nobody needs them now SE

Even if the i110 weapons are now a reward from MSQ as per expansion HW, you cannot get all i110 weapons. Me and other people like how the i110 weapons look (mainly for glamour), in addition they already added i100 weapons for the new 3 jobs. Which many want to get and upgrade to give it that shine.

The i120 upgradable gear is still practical to use up to level 53-54 but having to wait possibly 13 weeks to get all the items needed for just one job, is sort of counteracting your desire to get new people into HW with the best gear possible.

Keep the weekly quest for those Ironworks upgrades if you so desire, since giving new players more chances to get the upgrade items asap seems a solid idea imho.

For your first part, the 'need' to get all i120/i130 arms, well you have two options:
1- 13 weeks to get all weapons + 13 weeks to upgrade (total 6 months).
2- I don't raid in Bahamut's Coils, but I recall you can get the Encrypted tome there from chests, along with the Carbonwire and Carboncoat.

Regarding the 6 months time, the game is designed to last for years to come, IF all gears were obtainable in matter of a couple of weeks people would only subscribe on every patch for 1 month.

I don't want them to make gaining new arms easier than it is now, I mean I was laughing when the same Yagrush i110 I spent 15 ST runs to get it and two weeks of Hunting .. now its an optional reward for a whitemage (Lv.52 & i115+) who can't heal what I used to with i90-ish.

[Superskull85]

You still need those upgrade items for dyeable gear.

[T2teddy]

You still need those upgrade items for dyeable gear.

I'm not able to get any of those new i110 MSQ quest rewards any longer I cannot test out whether or not the armor is dyeable. The weapons never were. However, only the i100 blue vendor gear is 'weathered' and Drake's UI still accepts only the 'weathered items on trade.. These new quest rewards have already been upgraded to 110.

Even if the i110 weapons are now a reward from MSQ as per expansion HW, you cannot get all i110 weapons.

I heard they are going to add the three new job weapons to those quests as well.

And once again, SE already stated they're making the path to gearing up more streamlined in order to get new folks into HW faster. You can buy HQ Heavensward gear on the market pretty cheap which is vastly better than the i110, and then use the HW quests to partly gear out an alt job or two.

I seriously can't see new players putting themselves through the same CT grind that we did for the Ironworks gear. Weapons yes, gear no. They want into HW asap.

We were level capped and had no better way to gear up if you could manage to get a Coils static. [which a ton of people could not] The new guys have no caps and can get poetics more that twice as fast as we ever could so they really could use a big bump in the availability of the carbon based upgrade items.
Idk, maybe add those items to the first and second boss's chests? OR, turn the weekly into a DAILY!

[Velox]

Another, "well I don't need them anymore, so no one must need them" thread.

[Wintersandman]

Another, "well I don't need them anymore, so no one must need them" thread.

The question is who does 'need' them?