SE's response to monk meditation

[Tila]

Anyways... is meditation really that bothersome?

My monk isnt maxed yet, but just looking at the skill you can tell its bothersome. Use 5 GCD, making an annoying sound each, to make a strong attack.

I mean, what was the point of it? Give monks something to do during those times when they can't be on the boss? There were so many different things they could have done while still being unique. Like a CD ability that lets them execute melee attacks as if by range. Its very easy to tell that the move is sloppy.

[NovaLevossida]

They could have just made it a channeled ability that didn't interrupt while moving and is able to be canceled by executing any other action. The longer it's charged, the more stacks it generates. This prevents it from being used during battle, can't be used as an OGCD, can still be used during downtime (boss jumps away) / between battles, doesn't instantly give stacks, and only requires one button press. That's about a billion times better than carpal tunnel.

[Caldred]

Funny thing is...
Both, meditaion/FB and Tornado Kick were added to make up for those moments when you know you're going to lose all greased lightning stacks, they said that meditation is supposed to be stacked during downtimes in fight so you can deal some burst with FB to make up for the damage loss caused by stacking greased all over again...

Two weeks later A4 comes in...
You get sucked by a pipe with a downtime (that will likely remove greased) without a warning that would allow to use TK to spend greased before losing it, and also you cant get any stack of meditation because you're too busy spinning with a stupid animation. Cant even Form Shift either.

That's a great plan SE, lets give monks something to make up for the loss of greased caused by mechanics and lets add mechanics that make it useless right after.

[Humorless]

Lolwut? You don't think 190 potency loss is a little extreme? Unless you straight up don't get to attack, nin nor mnk loose that much potency for an out of position attack. At least from what I recall off the top of my head. If i'm wrong, please let me know. I'm getting all 3 melee to 60 anyway.

I mean... they're just making the positionals a little more friendly.

Uh, Seeing Wings = 3-4 GCDs on the front = ~130 potency lost. Over entire fights like that it adds up to pretty much the same as the 4-5 DRG positionals missed.

[Leonus]

Are you counting heavy thrust and chaos thrust as well?

Just putting it our there.

If you're out of position for both at the same time (just HT or CT and Wheeling/Fang at the same time) you're loosing 240-260 potency in 2 global cooldowns.

Those can be back to back too. It's also possible to loose 310 potency in just 6 gcds.

I'd have to go look up mnk potency losses again, but I do feel that a possible 310 potency loss with the biggest contributor being a 50/50 190 potency loss is a bit much.

In fights like that, it's safe to assume the drg is also missing some positionals. If all three happen to line up... well... shit.... lol. It happens more than people would like to think.

Especially when you have no choice but to eat that large loss to keep BotD. What I'm saying is... if they dropped just 90 of the 190, I'd be more than fight e with it. As of now, I try not to miss, and eat the loss when I have no choice.

[justinjarjar]

Dragoon get out of here, everyone in melee has positionals and loses pot. to not being able to get to flank or rear. Just shhhhh, being on lvl 54 on monk I have been using a macro in between pulls, since I tired to do two dungeon runs without it, and ewwhhh is slamming chakra and then shift not fun to fit in between fights.

[Leonus]

Dragoon get out of here, everyone in melee has positionals and loses pot. to not being able to get to flank or rear. Just shhhhh, being on lvl 54 on monk I have been using a macro in between pulls, since I tired to do two dungeon runs without it, and ewwhhh is slamming chakra and then shift not fun to fit in between fights.

Lol, this kid... grats on your 54 mnk. You got a whopping 4 levels on me. Only reason it's not 60 is because I'm doing nin first.

Seroiusly... get over youself.

I am proud if you though, for being able to state the obvious.

[MrSmiley]

Lol, this kid... grats on your 54 mnk. You got a whopping 4 levels on me. Only reason it's not 60 is because I'm doing nin first.

Seroiusly... get over youself.

I am proud if you though, for being able to state the obvious.

Yes 4 levels and experience with the skill this topic about which you dont have. not only do you keep veering way off topic (this has nothing to do with drg or dps or such) but your questioning the entire point of a thread about a skill you have never used.

[justinjarjar]

And I have lvl 60 Drg with a chunk of law gear, as the next poster stated I now have experience with the skill in question, that for the most part does not change at 60. I still do not get some DRG's over-dramatics over an almost nonissue. This thread is about QOL fixes for monk and has nothing to do with damage or positionals. Go to the DRG thread that complains about the positionals. K, BYE, THX.

[Leonus]

snark

So when some states something about drg with bias as to shoot down the class I am supposed to say nothing, but allow it to perpetuate without stating facts to quell it, makes sense.

4 levels experience with these new skills means next to nothing. Try to make it see make it that way all you want but that's the truth.

When I asked it'll it was annoying I was asking for my own knowledge, because I do play the class, did at 50 while raiding. So you and your new found levels that somehow make you better than me while the new game has been out for 3 weeks, can shove it.

Again , I'm going Drg then nin, then mnk. Just because you leveled mnk before me, shouldn't give you some kind of right to keep me from posting questions, concerns or stopping bashing against the other jobs I play because of your own personal bias.

I plan to play all 3, like I did before.

I did not complain, not once. I just am not upset at Drgs asking for a drop in potency loss. One that makes a little more sense.

Even after I derailed the topic I even tried to get back on topic, until someone ELSE derailed it again. Check for yourself. If you want it to stay on topic, stop mentioning other jobs... period. Then no one has any reason to come in and correct false information or obvious bias anymore.