What I think the celestial opposition buff is going to be...

[EchuKayu]

We don't fully know what these changes are or are going to do, and personally I think they're going to be far lackluster to what we actually think they're going to be. It still won't address the problems that Nocturnal has and it's yet to see how the cards will be effected.

[Leiloni]

They don't mean they're adding stances or letting us switch between the ones we have. All they're saying is CU and CO will get buffs/improvements in the style of the AST, so they'll have improved effects that differ between our two stances depending on which one we're in, as opposed to just giving them a big stat buff or something in the style of WHM or SCH.

[Azorius]

I find it kind of funny how much people are arguing over what kind of buffs AST should get. Having finished AST to 60 and now working on getting my SCH from 50 to 60, it's apparent that AST just needs to bring more to the table. I don't care what they get as long as it makes them as valuable as WHM/SCH.

[Leiloni]

I find it kind of funny how much people are arguing over what kind of buffs AST should get. Having finished AST to 60 and now working on getting my SCH from 50 to 60, it's apparent that AST just needs to bring more to the table. I don't care what they get as long as it makes them as valuable as WHM/SCH.

No one is arguing over what buffs to get. Yoshi P already indicated today some of the ideas they're working on. It's just that one sentence was a bit vague so this thread is discussing what people think he meant by that.

[Heinel]

I don't think that Collective Unconscious will lose it's SacredSoil/Asylum Effect >.<
it makes no sense.

Huh, I sure hope they drop those effects completely and rework the skill into something entirely different. Given how undesirable an AST/AST combo is for party composition, you're most likely going to have one of those skills in your group already, not to mention the effects aren't even all that useful to begin with.