What I think the celestial opposition buff is going to be...

[Lycinder]

So what we know about Celestial opposition is that it is going to be akin to stance dancing, and some are confused to what it means so the following is what I think its going to be -

Imagine you are in a raid and everyone is topped up in health and your healing partner is able to solo heal, normally this is the part where someone pops cleric stance dropping your healing for more dps but instead the Astrologian pops an aoe balance or arrow and then goes into celestial opposition.

They become a "totem" where everyone in range of celestial opposition has their buffs placed by the astrologian "time stop"ped as a support class this could be a massive boon and its balanced by the fact that while you are effectively permanently placing a buff on a group you can't heal or move to dodge.

This is all of course speculation but it seems like it could work and would give the skill more of a "big deal level 60 skill" feel compared to how it currently is.

[GideonHighmourn]

Far more likely that it's just gonna switch you between diurnal and nocturnal. Which will be interesting to see, considering nocturnal's kit is underpowered and lacks synergy. Will likely be only useful in 4-mans and in 8-mans with a WHM partner.

[Troile]

Haha, not a bad idea. Though you should change the title to say "What I would love the celestial opposition buff to be". There's little indication as to the changes that will actually be made. However, I wouldn't be surprised if more is changed than stated in the Live Letter. There's no reason for them to spill all the beans, only enough to let us know they are changing things.

[Lycinder]

Far more likely that it's just gonna switch you between diurnal and nocturnal. Which will be interesting to see, considering nocturnal's kit is underpowered and lacks synergy. Will likely be only useful in 4-mans and in 8-mans with a WHM partner.

"As for Collective Unconscious and Celestial Opposition, instead of adjusting the stats similar to other healer actions, we’ll make astrologian-like adjustments where they switch between stances"

This statement from the official translation has no connection between Diurnal and Nocturnal, people heard stance changing and got their hopes up, what they are saying is that Collective unconsciousness and Celestial Opposition are going to be toggles like cleric stance instead of just changing their stats to compete with the other healers.

[Krixus]

While that sounds amazing, you can't really think that's what they will do lol. Would be wayyy too OP.

Edit* just saw OPs most recent post

I really think its just diurnal and nocturnal, as they are stances. Doubt they mean a toggleable ability.

[GideonHighmourn]

"As for Collective Unconscious and Celestial Opposition, instead of adjusting the stats similar to other healer actions, we’ll make astrologian-like adjustments where they switch between stances"

This statement from the official translation has no connection between Diurnal and Nocturnal, people heard stance changing and got their hopes up, what they are saying is that Collective unconsciousness and Celestial Opposition are going to be toggles like cleric stance instead of just changing their stats to compete with the other healers.

I wouldn't expect anything ground breaking like two more stances on top of the three they already have access to. Just because they didn't say Dirunal and nocturnal explicitly doesn't imply that they're adding NEW stances; instead, they said switching between stances. Diurnal and Nocturnal ARE the Astrologian stances.

[Lycinder]

While that sounds amazing, you can't really think that's what they will do lol. Would be wayyy too OP.

Ehhhhhh not really, since you are effectively useless during it - Won't be able to move to dodge mechanics and won't be healing until we switch it off (I am assuming there will also be a cooldown on Celestial.

Instead we become what we were supposed to actually be, a support class, our gameplay changes to trying to keep the group up while maintaining buff uptime like a support healer hybrid should be about.

I wouldn't expect anything ground breaking like two more stances on top of the three they already have access to. Just because they didn't say Dirunal and nocturnal explicitly doesn't imply that they're adding NEW stances; instead, they said switching between stances. Diurnal and Nocturnal ARE the Astrologian stances.

I repeat - They said nothing about Nocturnal Diurnal, they were talking about Collective unconsciousness and Celestial Opposition, like really actually read the quote from Bayohne and notice if they were talking about Nocturnal and Diurnal that means they went absolutely off-tangent and didn't finish what they were saying about Collective unconsciousness and Celestial Opposition.

What I think they mean is having them toggle like cleric STANCE which is definitely a different kind of stance to nocturnal and diurnal, because its an active toggle.

[GideonHighmourn]

They literally said changing CO and CU to allows Astrologian to switch between stances. It's really not complicated as you're making it out to be.

[Krixus]

A sch or whm could solo heal while this is being done. And if it were able to be toggled, you could run out of an aoe, run back and freeze time on buffs again. And while running away from aoe you could be drawing a new buff to hold for when that one drops. I can see buffs lasting very long since you could reapply a new one after holding one for a min+. It's a cool idea just not realistic.

[Lycinder]

They literally said changing CO and CU to allows Astrologian to switch between stances. It's really not complicated as you're making it out to be.

Your wrong, no actually I hope your wrong because that would be a terrible change...Why would they change those into being stance dance cooldowns? It doesn't make any sense why their would be two...Actually it will make the skills a waste of a skill slot.
Read A20. like really read it, Bayohne said "instead of adjusting the stats similar to other healer actions" now how Collective Unconsciousness currently works is either a copy of sacred soil or the channeled WHM regen if they just change that to "Flips your stance in battle" we lose that utility.

We don't need Noct-diurnal switching our healing is viable, we need our support buffed to be weighed up against the other two healers.

A sch or whm could solo heal while this is being done. And if it were able to be toggled, you could run out of an aoe, run back and freeze time on buffs again. And while running away from aoe you could be drawing a new buff to hold for when that one drops. I can see buffs lasting very long since you could reapply a new one after holding one for a min+. It's a cool idea just not realistic.

Give it the same cooldown as Gauss and Wanderers, moving means you drop your buffs, there are many ways to balance it.