Astrologian buffs confirmed

[NorthernLadMSP]

Thier mana isn't a problem any more than a whms. Which isn't a problem either. With spire you have a 96 second LA, with CO you can add 5 more seconds to the refresh. Hq Mega ethers are very cheap and all mages should use when its off cd. Astro has problems but mana isn't big on the list. Some of you complain just to complain.

Rose tinted glass at its finest. Honestly, your comments are so pro-AST while refusing to acknowledge any of the issues, that I find it very hard to take you seriously anymore.

AST currently has it worse than WHM did back in 2.5. There is one single MP regen ability, they have one single MP free heal (two if you count Collective in Diurnal) and absolutely no way to buff their healing potencies in the event of an emergency. Not to mention the fact that all of their potencies are weaker than WHMs. SE obviously even acknowledged the fact that WHM often had it rough with MP and so they added another MP regen ability in the expansion.

It's also quite ridiculous to suggest AST having to purchase Mega Ethers as a suitable fix, when it's quite clear WHM nor SCH really ever needs to.

[Leiloni]

Not to mention the fact that all of their potencies are weaker than WHMs.

I agree with everything except the potencies comment. WHM does have bigger potencies on their heals but technically the AST's base heals are more mana efficient. What puts WHM on top is a)Regen is massively mana efficient, b)Freecure procs, and c)Divine Seal. These three used properly are what really make a WHM so mana efficient before they even need to cast Shroud. AST doesn't have any such features. :\ So we'll see how the various class and mana changes affect us. I have a lot of hope actually that the improvements will be what this class needs in a lot of ways.

[Krixus]

Rose tinted glass at its finest. Honestly, your comments are so pro-AST while refusing to acknowledge any of the issues, that I find it very hard to take you seriously anymore.

AST currently has it worse than WHM did back in 2.5. There is one single MP regen ability, they have one single MP free heal (two if you count Collective in Diurnal) and absolutely no way to buff their healing potencies in the event of an emergency. Not to mention the fact that all of their potencies are weaker than WHMs. SE obviously even acknowledged the fact that WHM often had it rough with MP and so they added another MP regen ability in the expansion.

It's also quite ridiculous to suggest AST having to purchase Mega Ethers as a suitable fix, when it's quite clear WHM nor SCH really ever needs to.

That's not exactly true, I am very pro-ast, there are always people who are over-the-top pro-this, and then the middle guys who could go either way, then the negative anti-that complainers like, you for example. I have said multiple times I wanted tweeks to the job, but mainly a fix to the card system. The healing and mp issues these scrubs have arnt my own, so I dont feel the need for buffs in those departments. Whm has always been my main, and honestly it has been very boring and easy. So astro kind of put me at a level where my healing is on par with how difficult it should be.

[winsock]

Damn, hopefully not jumping the gun, by imma feed my AST xp tonight xD.

[Eraqus]

I'm glad to hear that they r working on it BTW.

[Leiloni]

Mana regen is easier on WHM and SCH since they have more ways to both save and regen mana than AST does (and they're both just more efficient healers in general). In intense situations it gets harder on an AST. However they already said they're making changes to mana regen at 60:

Q5. As the level cap increased, our maximum MP also increased, but it feels like the rate of MP consumption has also increased. Will this be fixed as our item levels increase?

A5. Even if you increase your item level, this will not change. We plan on addressing specific jobs that are severely hurting for MP.

I'm guessing too that the buffs/changes mentioned in the OP will indirectly help with mana consumption as well.

On another note, we'll finally get to see the TP bars which should help too:

Q79. How is the feature to see our party members' TP coming along?

A79. We're currently working on this so that memory is not completely consumed, and we're planning to just show the bar, not a value. We're aiming to implement this in Patch 3.1.

[sharazisspecial]

With WHM and SCH i can spend the whole fight casting. But with AST i need to spend time idling due to the poor mana return . This is why i wont play AST again in serious content (if they dont get mana buffs).

[Slib]

With WHM and SCH i can spend the whole fight casting. But with AST i need to spend time idling due to the poor mana return . This is why i wont play AST again in serious content (if they dont get mana buffs).

I don't get why people have issues with mana on astro... I dps more than I do on it with white mage and I end up with better MP management.

[VitalSuit]

I don't get why people have issues with mana on astro... I dps more than I do on it with white mage and I end up with better MP management.

Spamming Malefic 2, combust 2, combust, and aero drains my mana faster than spamming Bio 2, Bio, miasma, shadowflare, maisma 2, and broil does on my SCH. Their mp sustain is atrocious.

Honestly at level 50 content the AST mp sustain is REALLY GOOD. I can dps, helios, do everything and my mana never drops below 3k but once I start doing level 60 content? My mana is dropping really damn fast and it's not the amount of heals I need to put out. The mp cost at level 60 is a much much higher % than it was a 50 or something is up.

[UOdhn]

Spamming Malefic 2, combust 2, combust, and aero drains my mana faster than spamming Bio 2, Bio, miasma, shadowflare, maisma 2, and broil does on my SCH. Their mp sustain is atrocious.

Are you saying their MP usage is...astronomical? But I do agree, in all seriousness, that their MP sustain is rather lackluster.