Paladin Advice please.

[Faytte]

Swipe being a dps loss is irrelevant. We are tanks, needing optimal dps isn't our job. Maybe for an OT, but they aren't getting the proc anyways.

The faster a boss dies, the better it is for everyone. You should not be suicidal as a tank for your dps as some have been, but once you 1) have aggro and are not in threat of losing it 2) have your debuffs on the boss to make yourself easier to heal then your next priority (outside proper mechanics) is 3) kill boss.

The places you should use shield swipe are incredibly limited. Using it will cause goring to fall off (your biggest dps combo by far) or rages debuff if you are doing GB>RoH>RA (as most people are, or some variation there of). The TP gain is minimal (10 per use--you are generally better off just casting a flash and getting back a full GCDS' worth of tp to apply to a better combo tbh, especially if you are so tp starved that goring might fall off).


Raids ignore pacification so thats out. With enough skill speed, you can fit in ONE swipe and not really lose any debuff uptime in your combo, which can be useful (gain back 10 tp, some extra threat, etc) but the reason is not a priority is not because of 'optimal dps'. It is because it is not optimal for tanking.

[Kosmos992k]

Raise would be an iffy one now I think, as OT we could raise, heal, protect, stoneskin and then get all our MP back fairly quickly.

We already have access to raise, we simply can't use it in battle. It's a 6 second cast too, so it's not like we're really creating an imbalance by allowing a paladin to do an emergency raise during battle much like BLM and SMN can. It anything it makes more sense since we have a shield to hide behind while casting.

[Phoenicia]

We already have access to raise, we simply can't use it in battle. It's a 6 second cast too, so it's not like we're really creating an imbalance by allowing a paladin to do an emergency raise during battle much like BLM and SMN can. It anything it makes more sense since we have a shield to hide behind while casting.

Umm, BLM can't raise in battle nor has access to it. I honestly think it's a huge buff to PLD utility to have access to raise. Almost broken.

Btw the quotes in your signature made me chuckle.

[Kosmos992k]

Umm, BLM can't raise in battle nor has access to it. I honestly think it's a huge buff to PLD utility to have access to raise. Almost broken.

Btw the quotes in your signature made me chuckle.

Ugh, I had a short brain fart, you're absolutely right, I was thinking of Summoner thanks to the ability they inherit from their Arcanist roots. Apologies, although I do think that it would work as an ability for PLD since we already have Raise. With the new emphasis on us as potential emergency healers and healing support it seems logical to allow us to raise in battle. It's not so much OP, as overly useful perhaps.