Suggestion: Dark Knight Revamp (Yes I know another one)

[Gooner_iBluAirJGR]

I just want to know one thing: how is Darkside not a DPS stance if you can use it without Grit to increase your damage dealt by 15%?

p.s. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39YR61lIIUU dat dps tho.

p.s.s. I don't play Dark but I tank with one in a static. . . my question is real. . .

[Rhaja]

Darksides can be maintained in Grit as well. It's honestly like a Warrior who can constantly keep up maim.

[Ditto]

I just want to know one thing: how is Darkside not a DPS stance if you can use it without Grit to increase your damage dealt by 15%?

p.s. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39YR61lIIUU dat dps tho.

p.s.s. I don't play Dark but I tank with one in a static. . . my question is real. . .

Darksides can be maintained in Grit as well. It's honestly like a Warrior who can constantly keep up maim.

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And that video was taken BEFORE the Dark Arts bug fix. That fix was about a 100 DPS loss to us, possibly more if you factor in MP management.

[TouchandFeel]

The other was a tank that was focused on inflicting debuffs so that rather than actually being particularly good at tanking the DRK just made everything around him weaker.

That is exactly what I have been saying in other DRK threads, they should be debuff tanks.
Darkside/Dark Arts is their mechanic gimmick, debuffer is their tank/raid utility role. They make themselves and their party stronger by making their enemies weaker.

[Ipkonfig]

Dark Arts bug was not 100 DPS loss, but one of the ACT updates broke Salted Earth it doesn't parse anymore, AND Scourge doesn't parse correctly but I can still pull comparable numbers to my WAR if I have a NIN put slashing de-buff on for me. TP is an issue of course, luckily there is no fight where I have to worry about running dry, and if I do get low when I run as DRK the BRD in my group is typically already playing Paeon.

[Nexxus]

I'm the only one getting tired of doing (DPS side) Dark Arts on every combo ? I would love to see dark arts being a stack (to looks like the war).
As for Darkside, it is too bad that is on gcd, i would like to put it off right after a combo.
Sole Survivor shouldn't be with a timer on it, 15s is to fast or it could give an add effect while it's active.

[Domira]

Hmm I don't think DRK needs a revamp. Only a few minor changes.

[Nektulos-Tuor]

I think DRK should be DOT tanks, which is why I love the scourge spread idea. I would also like delirium to be a damage over time that also reduces damage taken to us.

Delirium:
Delivers an attack with a potency of 100.
Combo Action: Syphon Strike Combo Potency: 50
Combo Bonus: Damage over time with potency of 40 and lowers target's damage dealt by 10% for 30s.

Salted Earth:
Delivers an attack that Increases Enmity in all nearby enemies.
Additional Effect: Damage over time for 21s, Potency: 75

New Ability: Scorched Earth.
Spreads a target's Scourge, Delirium to nearby enemies.
Potency is halved for the fourth enemy and beyond.
Only available while under the effect of Dark Arts.
Dark Arts fades upon execution.

[Kiteless]

I think DRK should be DOT tanks, which is why I love the scourge spread idea. I would also like delirium to be a damage over time that also reduces damage taken to us.

No.

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[Cryptfox]

DK is able to sudo MT but not have as strong of cool downs as PLD and isn't able to dps as high as warrior, where does this allow DK to fit in?

What are some fixes that could place DK a lil bit better?

Firstly, after playing DK since launch I can see that managing mp isn't that bad. It's the large amount of need for Dark Arts to be used to max their dps. As well as the tp drain. I can only go for roughly 2 1/2 min before being drained of TP.

Tp- maybe reduce cost by 10%. This would make roughly a 6 tp reduction per ability.

Dark Arts- Raise the cost to 2000 MP but increase the duration to 15 seconds and not expend DA on ability use (allow full duration) - Also, on abilities that are affected by DA cause 50% of damage return as a damage shield that reduces the damage taken.

Darkside- increase damage delt by 7%
I feel that these tweaks would give DK a bit more sustainability and give a different feel of a tank class.

Also, I fully agree that DKs should be more heavily singled out as de buffing tanks.