Black Mage Sanctuary - A Guide to DPS

[jmdude]

I'm having trouble explaining to my friend why 6 fire IV opener is weaker than proc fire 1 opener. He can't graps that getting more spells under buffs is better than losing a fire IV. Anyone got a really brief but detailed explaination I can just copy paste.

[Lavitz_]

I'm having trouble explaining to my friend why 6 fire IV opener is weaker than proc fire 1 opener. He can't graps that getting more spells under buffs is better than losing a fire IV. Anyone got a really brief but detailed explaination I can just copy paste.

I have no problem fitting 6 Fire IVs, a Firestarter and Blizzard 3 in Raging Strikes.

[Sleigh]

I'm having trouble explaining to my friend why 6 fire IV opener is weaker than proc fire 1 opener. He can't graps that getting more spells under buffs is better than losing a fire IV. Anyone got a really brief but detailed explaination I can just copy paste.

Do you mean Sharp F1 opener vs F3 opener?

F1 opener is generally more DPS because you're unable to get MP screwed, you have an easier time with oGCD entry, and if you luck out and get a Firestarter proc you do more damage anyway regardless of other factors.

F3 opener is strong but you have to slow it down due to raw oGCDs, and if you get no MP tick at the start you will literally sit there for 0-3 seconds waiting for an MP tick without casting anything. You use the F3 opener, or any opener that isn't the F1 opener, for timing/mobility purposes, like in A3S and Thordan.

I wouldn't call the F1 opener "losing" a F4. You're just turning it into a Flare, barely a difference TBH.

[jmdude]

Do you mean Sharp F1 opener vs F3 opener?

F1 opener is generally more DPS because you're unable to get MP screwed, you have an easier time with oGCD entry, and if you luck out and get a Firestarter proc you do more damage anyway regardless of other factors.

F3 opener is strong but you have to slow it down due to raw oGCDs, and if you get no MP tick at the start you will literally sit there for 0-3 seconds waiting for an MP tick without casting anything. You use the F3 opener, or any opener that isn't the F1 opener, for timing/mobility purposes, like in A3S and Thordan.

I wouldn't call the F1 opener "losing" a F4. You're just turning it into a Flare, barely a difference TBH.

I'm talking about the 6 f4 opener and Sharp 1 opener in the opening post, thank you. Would you ever use the Quad F4 opener mentioned in the video?

[Sleigh]

As far as I understand the F4 X4 opener, it relies on an MP tick to let you do F3 F1 F4 F4 F4 F4 F3P Swiftcast Flare F4 B3 T1 B4, vs the standard F3 F1 F4 F4 F4 F3P Convert F4 F4 F4 B3 (variable action due to MP). While I'm not sure I really understand why you wouldn't still just do F3 F1 F4 F4 F4 F3P F4 F4 F4 B3 T1 B4 if you had a guaranteed MP tick, I personally don't foresee myself using it. In my group, we have the WAR initiate an Infuriate upon our ready check being 8/8, then our NIN does an immediate Huton in response to that, and an immediate pull macro in response to that. Everything's tight, I'm not sure if I'd be able to put a guaranteed MP tick in relation to those timers.

So the answer is, no? Unless I was an even bigger tyrant than I already am.

[Sleigh]

This is gonna sound kind of disrespectful on my part but if you don't raid, in FF14, you probably shouldn't care that much about your stats beyond a certain point. You don't notice all these 1% upgrades and min/maxing until you're doing slugfest raids where you save 5 seconds on a phase you've done literally 500 times and can see the tiny differences because everyone's decked out in their BiS vs their non-BiS. Upgrades in FF14 are very miniscule, and in non-raid content you're basically just gearing up further if you enjoy the idea that you're gearing up further, if that makes sense.

But to answer your question more legitimately, yes go for full i210 Esoterics as your goal if no other i210 opportunities are available. iLVL is king. You can do some Diadem and get some pretty nice stuff too but again, you won't notice it in dungeons/overworld/Thordan for the most part.

[Nephisto]

Well, say like that, gearing up if you don't raid seems totally useless. But I understand the point. So I will stop to waste my time with the Ariyala's gear calculator and just go full Eso

Or maybe I will just continue Xenoblade Chronicles and wait the next patch...

[Maero]

Well next patch we should see different gear with other stats i believe, not 100% sure on this however.
For the hat you can just go for the Void Ark hat, and boots as well. Eso gloves are.. not all that great in my opinion and Diadem ring is actually better then having one non-upgraded eso.
The point of not raiding but wanting to min max i rather sort of agree with Sleigh on, does it however mean you should not get bis gear? Well no, that is entirely up to the player. XD

[Undeadfire]

Secondary stats are not going to beat main attributes, this was proven way too long ago. 50-70 Critical (Being roughly) only adds around 1% Critical and main attribute guarantees damage increase, the damage numbers go far higher with much more intense attribute increase. I seen tanks try to do this system in A3s/A4s and it notably gets them killed, it's not a benefit and their DPS was under par.

Edit:

The only time to make this exception is to reach optimal rotation, hence SS/SS, example: Warriors 3x Fell Cleave. Of course Blm don't really need any acc out of current gear and acc caps, so lets leave that out.

[Sleigh]

Interesting if it comes out. There are definitely a lot of scenarios where it could help.

- F4 > F4 cast starts > dodge - can now do another F4 instead of skipping to F1. Or hell just doing F4 F1 F4 F4 F4 would be more lenient and less likely to screw you if you dodge further in the rotation.
- F3P > F4X3 without making B3 cost normal MP
- F3 > F4 F4 > (TC because use or lose) F1. Normally you need F3P or have to do a dreadful B3 ASAP.
- Scenarios like A4S phase changes where you may Transpose, and want the UI F3 to hit the next phase for less MP, but you want the MP from 3 ticks of MP. It's tricky to time as it is, if you didn't get a B3 off. Actually in general this would be godly for A3S phase changes and magnets, and A4S in specific parts.