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    When parsing a SSS dummy, if you're in melee range and auto-attack the whole ca. 3 min parse, how much do those auto-attack ("wand smacking") do in % of the total Dps? of the whole ca. 3 min run?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiroe View Post
    When parsing a SSS dummy, if you're in melee range and auto-attack the whole ca. 3 min parse, how much do those auto-attack ("wand smacking") do in % of the total Dps? of the whole ca. 3 min run?
    You can only auto between casts (not when you're channeling a spell).
    Autos are about 70ish damage each.
    OVer 60 casts, at best you get 60 autos off for ~22dps.
    In reality, you'll get less. Let's say 15dps.
    If you parse 4.4k over 3 mins, the autos add under 0.3% dps.
    SMN/SCH book smacking is actually stronger than BLM staff bashing btw (they get like 60dps off it).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Galvuu View Post
    You can only auto between casts (not when you're channeling a spell).
    Autos are about 70ish damage each.
    OVer 60 casts, at best you get 60 autos off for ~22dps.
    In reality, you'll get less. Let's say 15dps.
    If you parse 4.4k over 3 mins, the autos add under 0.3% dps.
    SMN/SCH book smacking is actually stronger than BLM staff bashing btw (they get like 60dps off it).
    thanx

    in Theorie, that's more or about "the gab/ between blm and Sam on the SSS dummy, they're like only 6 dps difference from one another for the minimum requirement on Susano and Lakshmi ..,

    so if you can auto attack half the fight, it could be equal to Sams dps, ..Unless ofc SE took the auto attacks into consideration.. and both get the same buffs

    (but we know, most fights will not allow blm to maximise it's dps,.. even rdm out dps us in real fights xD)
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    So as of right now what is the current opener and rotation? I'm hearing using Umbral Hearts is useless outside of openers so I'm hoping to get a good opener/rotations
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dusk278 View Post
    So as of right now what is the current opener and rotation? I'm hearing using Umbral Hearts is useless outside of openers so I'm hoping to get a good opener/rotations
    This is the opener I'm using right now.
    http://i.imgur.com/CpMrlr2.png
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dusk278 View Post
    So as of right now what is the current opener and rotation? I'm hearing using Umbral Hearts is useless outside of openers so I'm hoping to get a good opener/rotations
    well the top no balance parses for lakshmi show BLMS using B4 so I guess this is not true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paoweeotter View Post
    well the top no balance parses for lakshmi show BLMS using B4 so I guess this is not true.
    https://www.fflogs.com/rankings/15#b...spec=BlackMage
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    they all do 3 f4 f1 f4... b3 foul b4
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    wtf is that a flare in the opener?
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    Quote Originally Posted by paoweeotter View Post
    well the top no balance parses for lakshmi show BLMS using B4 so I guess this is not true.
    The point of this thread is to point out that utilizing 4.0 rotation over 3.0 would only net you a marginal increase in DPS or an actual loss. That the impact of integrating the Stormblood skills is just not worth the risk and effort.

    I don't think Lakshmi is a proper fight to compare parses and invalidate this thread. That fight is practically a dummy fight compared to Susano.

    Let's talk Susano, since that boss is a preview of what's to come and will screw us over if we insist on using 4.0 rotation on a movement-heavy fight:

    Non-balance top parse is currently at 4103.9 for Susano. I'd like to point out that the other guy with top parse w/ balance had an unbuffed DPS of 3926.9. That's only an increase of 177 points of DPS. On a rotation (4.0) that, according to the math, gives you only 1.5seconds for movement, any interruptions to the 6 F4s and 1 F1 would mean you would either have to: transpose, give up an F4 and go UI, swiftcast B3, or ditch T3P. Now since we don't have a replay of that 4.0 rotation top non-balance parse but I would imagine that he played the fight to perfection. That's something that won't occur very often given the RNG of Susano's mechanics.
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