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  1. #161
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malevicton View Post
    This does mean, however, that we can "borrow" some of the leniency of the first rotation for our third rotation now. The 2nd rotation is still the problem child.
    I wonder about that. If you use the whole 30 as efficiently as possible, say with procs and thunder during Umbral Ice, your second rotation might be just long enough to where you can just let enochian expire and wait the 5 seconds to refresh it.

    Doesn't sound like a DPS increase, but it does sound like you're giving more leeway for procs which might be a net increase.

    I don't think making thunder better was the right fix. It's like if you were having problems getting furniture through a doorway and the solution was to get heavier furniture. I guess you might have an easier time making a larger doorway, though probably not on purpose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malevicton View Post
    It's not straight up multiplied like that. The initial hit potency is 390 since it includes the normal initial hit potency, it's just worded strangely. So it's ((40*8)+70))*2 you add the 70 before multiplying by 2 not after
    Why would the initial 70 damage hit twice? All I see from both tooltips is that TC is 390 initial and 320 DoT for a total of 710. Or wait... am I misreading it epically? Damnit.
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    Last edited by Waliel; 07-22-2015 at 02:34 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mercutial View Post
    Soooo.. I haven't play tested this yet. But doesn't the automatic 30sec Enochian refresh greatly increase our mobility (at least in the second and third go thru's of our rotation)? I understand the AF timer still enforces a bit of a chokehold, but this buff can only be a good thing I would think.
    Thing to take note, the cooldown of 60 seconds still remains.
    Use too early to refresh in the middle of rotation means it will drop off earlier and end up waiting for the 60 seconds to be over.
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  4. #164
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    Gotcha... I just read it as 30 sec (B4), 30 sec (B4), etc. As opposed to 30 sec (B4), 25 sec (B4), 20 sec (B4). My bad.
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    is it me or did we get an FU blm button IE enochian?
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    anyone find the miss accuracy for savage yet?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xisin View Post
    anyone find the miss accuracy for savage yet?
    Dunno about A2, but A1 seems to be very low. Healers never miss at 497, I have 521 and don't miss.
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  8. #168
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    Miranda Madison
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    The rotation I was using was B3 > T1 > Enochian > Fire 3 > F4 > F4 > F4 > B3 > B4 > F3 > F4x3. Ya know, I just took out lot of stuff from the opener and simplified it.

    With the 'fix' to enochian, I can pretty much do that rotation about 4-5 times, barring mechanic dodging. With the fix.. and my days tanking stuff making my reaction time better than ever, I feel alittle more confident that I can do the actual rotation.
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    So what if you get a TC in the middle of your rotation, for example after your first F4, you would do this:

    *umbral* - F3 - F4 *get tc proc* - F4 - F1 - TC - F4

    Right? In this case, if you have enough time on enochian, would it be worth it to do 1 more F4 and after that, for the sake of dumping your remaining 3K mana in to a quick F1, before going umbral? Or would it be better to just go umbral asap so you can go to a full F4 rotation again sooner?
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    Last edited by Pyroclastic; 07-22-2015 at 04:46 PM.

  10. #170
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    Ignore this
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    Last edited by Pyroclastic; 07-22-2015 at 04:44 PM.

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