Black Mage Sanctuary - A Guide to DPS

[Finkledoodoo]

Are there any spreadsheets or explanations about the dh>det>crit? Last time I played, the debate was not decided on dh and crit, but it was known that det was last. What changed?
*edit*
Went through the thread and it looks like its been this way for a while... Sorry about that. Thx!

Ok, how about this:
I've been trying to figure out openers for 9+ trash and can't find anything stable... I come up with an AF start then the UI is so short that I'm screwed... This is mainly because LL makes the UI into F3 part go too quick... Any ideas for a stable opener involving LL? 9+ rot I'm using is: f3 f2 f2 flare trans t4 f3 ect...

So far I came up with: pre sharp, pre f1, eno, f3p, pot, f2, f2, f2, ??? should I triple into triple flare? should i f2 and convert f2 flare? should i do a b4 opener to get more extra f2? Idk...

[Komaru_Tatoro]

for it boils down to if i want to see big numbers (wait til tank grabs all mob then start my b3 rot) or just want dmg to start ticking while tank is still pulling for the chioces of me t4 the first few mobs before the string of tank's big pull. then try to get a bliz3 in while we running ao that i can start my enochian timer ticking for foul otw.
but anyway, you will always want to get b3>enochian>t4>b4 first because of umbral hearts. without any umbral hearts, your flare will consume all your mp which making you cant double/triple flare without convert/ether.
im a cheapsk8 so i dont really use my ether unless i f up my rotation with 0mp left during boss fight.
in short: b3>enochian>t4>b4>f3>triplecast> (option A): f2>f2>flare>flare>convert>flare>transpose...
(option b, skipping 2xf2) flare>flare> convert>flare>trans>

now its down to choice if you want to (option A)2xf2 first to spend the first 2 umbral hearts or straight up triple/double flare if no convert.
for me in that situation i tend to 2xf2 if theres no other blm/smn/or sometime whm. reason is, if theres another aoe nuker, youre playing a game of who is depleting the hp of the mob faster/more because if youre slow, ie by the time you can triple flare after 2xf2, the mobs hp might be down to half. this means not all your flare dmg will count toward dps but as a overkill dps. same fall for if you have a foul saved up but no mob hp remaining to fully count as a dps
so if there is another aoe nuker i would with option B to play the game of tug o war for who depleting the enemy hp quicker lol

now if you have foul in the bank, i will usually use it after transpose but if the next foul is about to overwrite your saved foul, il say just use it during af since if you dont its a dps lost of a unused foul.
also sometime this may happen before the tank fully finish his big pull, then i would tend to use diversion and swiftcast a foul while we still running for the next set of mobs in the big pull string.

[Shiroe]

when is t4 best usefull, 2 or 3 mobs (or more)??

or only with sharpcast worth on 2??

[Shiroe]

when is t4 best usefull, 2 or 3 mobs (or more)??

or only with sharpcast worth on 2??

nm, was just lazy

[Finkledoodoo]

nm, was just lazy

So, what was the verdict?

[Shiroe]

So, what was the verdict?

seems like its always worth t4 on 2 adds, even if they proc less on 2 than t3 on a single one

[Shiroe]

seems like its always worth t4 on 2 adds, even if they proc less on 2 than t3 on a single one

assuming they can fully tick (or proc)

[Komaru_Tatoro]

if 2 adds, you might as well just sharp t3 and tc the 2nd. then just single target f4 rotation 1 of the add.

[Shiroe]

might as well sharpcast t4, will di more damage..., but with 2×t3 up, youll proc very likely more (and costs less mp)

just potency alone, t4 would be a bit highet

[Finkledoodoo]

if 2 adds, you might as well just sharp t3 and tc the 2nd. then just single target f4 rotation 1 of the add.

Only do that rotation if you don't care about max dps. I'm always trying to do the highest dps possible at any moment, so I go straight to the AOE for 2 trash. Its just t4 b4 f3 f4 f4 flare flare trans. The reason its better is because the 2 flares give you roughly 4xf4 worth of damage, but in less time, even with a full 3 second wait on transpose which doesn't happen often given randomness, foul procs and tc procs...

might as well sharpcast t4, will di more damage..., but with 2×t3 up, youll proc very likely more (and costs less mp)

just potency alone, t4 would be a bit highet

Intuitively looking at it, it seems like the higher proc chance doesn't have a higher pps for two reasons, 1: the time it takes to cast 2x t3 (even with one being a straigt GDC) and 2: the extra procs would be worth less potency.

What math is involved to optimize this situation?