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  1. #2571
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrasper View Post
    I was practicing on the dummy with me not doing B4 after the opener. The issue that kept on popping up is Fouls timing. It started popping up during my AF3 phase. I noticed it more when I had only 2400 mana left, and I b3 instead.
    Can't you just push them back until you can double Foul in UI?
    Hell, do the 2.X rotation. You gain RDM mobility and lose 10% dps lol
    Also you always have enough mana to Foul mid AF if you need to.
    This job is robbing me of my sanity.
    The more I look into the numbers, the more I realise the futility of my efforts...
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  2. #2572
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    Doctor Fumbles
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    Quote Originally Posted by Galvuu View Post
    Can't you just push them back until you can double Foul in UI?
    Hell, do the 2.X rotation. You gain RDM mobility and lose 10% dps lol
    Also you always have enough mana to Foul mid AF if you need to.
    This job is robbing me of my sanity.
    The more I look into the numbers, the more I realise the futility of my efforts...
    Hmm I guess I could, but I am also thinking too that movement will skew it worse. I am still struggling on the facts that 4 F4 do more dps then 6 F4.
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  3. #2573
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrasper View Post
    Hmm I guess I could, but I am also thinking too that movement will skew it worse. I am still struggling on the facts that 4 F4 do more dps then 6 F4.
    Get 3 Firestarter or more procs in the 2.X rotation, and you're within 4% dps of the 3.X one.
    So, by all means, it's probably optimal to switch between 2.X and 3.X depending on the phase of the fight.
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  4. #2574
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    Maxu Habufan
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    UH will come back. We just need more spellspeed to fit everything+movement.
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  5. #2575
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    guys? Is the Susano Weapon worth it? Not having any cast speed on it scares me!
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  6. #2576
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    what is a good air rotation now for BLM? I've been doing fire 3. thunder iv . flare. transpose. fire 3 . thunder. flare repeat. they say BLM is aoe king but i see rdm doing the same damage
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  7. #2577
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    also is it ever worth it casting blizzard 4 for single target dps? I've read it is better to ignore it and just do blizzard 3 then back to astral fire phase
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    Quote Originally Posted by paoweeotter View Post
    what is a good air rotation now for BLM? I've been doing fire 3. thunder iv . flare. transpose. fire 3 . thunder. flare repeat. they say BLM is aoe king but i see rdm doing the same damage
    I assume you mean AoE not Air lol

    B3 B4 T4 F3 F2 F2 (Triplecast) Flare Flare Convert Flare Transpose Foul
    Sharpcast Thunder IV if you can.
    I don't know if it's better to B3 after the first Flare when Convert isn't available or to do another Flare and then transpose.

    I did a treasure hunt with friends and had about 9 enemies up with high HP pools so even if it took me quite a bit to kill all of them as I was the only DPS, I still reached a sustained DPS of 21000~ when aoeing them.
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  9. #2579
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    Tarra Netsky
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    Behemoth
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    Quote Originally Posted by OmegaStrongtan View Post
    guys? Is the Susano Weapon worth it? Not having any cast speed on it scares me!
    Weapon damage > every stat

    Always and forever.

    Quote Originally Posted by paoweeotter View Post
    what is a good air rotation now for BLM? I've been doing fire 3. thunder iv . flare. transpose. fire 3 . thunder. flare repeat. they say BLM is aoe king but i see rdm doing the same damage
    I assume you mean AoE, and is this at 70?

    Bliz 3, bliz 4, thunder 4, fire 3, fire 2, flare, flare, convert, flare, tranpose, TC proc if you have it, bliz 4, fire 3, flare, flare, transpose
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  10. #2580
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    Maxu Habufan
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    You could skip the Fire2 and head straight to Flare if it's only 3 targets. On 4+ targets then go ahead and Fire2. Assuming you are starting the pull without any AF/UI stacks, start off with a B1 instead. The faster you get to your Flares/Fouls the better. Use sharp on T4 when you can. T4P is nuts on mobs.

    BLM is AOE king in dungeons. RDMs don't even come close to how we obliterate pulls.
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    Last edited by soslinky; 07-09-2017 at 06:11 PM.

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