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    Player Dererk's Avatar
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    Dererk Titan
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    Ultros
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaedan View Post
    It regens the same mp as Syphon Strike or does a crapload of damage off GCD. There is literally nothing to complain about C&S.

    I'd rather have another defensive CD

    Its not worth a lot of use because you need dark arts to boost its damage but you need to be out of darkside to get mp back but you dont get mp back if your in darkside and you still need dark arts to boost its damage but you need to be in darkside to use dark arts and still dont get mp back and if your useing dark arts which eats up over 1k mp to boost a move that gives back mp.


    Its not worth it I still want another defensive CD.
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    Kienkarajo's Avatar
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    Kienkarajo Tekura
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    Cactuar
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Dererk View Post
    I'd rather have another defensive CD
    My thoughts exactly.
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    Kaedan's Avatar
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    Kaedan Burkhardt
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    Atomos
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Dererk View Post
    I'd rather have another defensive CD

    Its not worth a lot of use because you need dark arts to boost its damage but you need to be out of darkside to get mp back but you dont get mp back if your in darkside and you still need dark arts to boost its damage but you need to be in darkside to use dark arts and still dont get mp back and if your useing dark arts which eats up over 1k mp to boost a move that gives back mp.


    Its not worth it I still want another defensive CD.
    I'm sorry, but what are you smoking here?

    You can use C&S to get MP back while being in Darkside. Darkside doesn't prevent you from regaining MP via Blood Price, Syphon Strike, and Carve and Spit. You regain MP from all those skills while in Darkside. The only time you ever have to change anything to regain MP is to use Blood Weapon, and that has nothing to do with Darkside. You can't have Grit active to use Blood Weapon.

    EDIT: Oh, and Mage Ballad doesn't work on us with Darkside up.
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    Player Dererk's Avatar
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    Dererk Titan
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaedan View Post
    I'm sorry, but what are you smoking here?

    You can use C&S to get MP back while being in Darkside. Darkside doesn't prevent you from regaining MP via Blood Price, Syphon Strike, and Carve and Spit. You regain MP from all those skills while in Darkside. The only time you ever have to change anything to regain MP is to use Blood Weapon, and that has nothing to do with Darkside. You can't have Grit active to use Blood Weapon.

    EDIT: Oh, and Mage Ballad doesn't work on us with Darkside up.
    what are you smoking? If you bothered to read the info on c&s you'd see you can't get mp back while in darkside.
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    Bluethroat Cantus
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    Mateus
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    Gunbreaker Lv 89
    Quote Originally Posted by Dererk View Post
    what are you smoking? If you bothered to read the info on c&s you'd see you can't get mp back while in darkside.
    For once, Kaedan is actually right about about something involving a tank class. You can still regain MP while in Darkside, just not through outside buffs. Syphon Strike, Blood Weapon, Blood Price, and C&S all regenerate MP while in Darkside. The only time C&S won't regenerate MP is if you use it while Dark Arts is up.

    That said, you should never use C&S without Dark Arts. 350 extra potency is a lot, and the MP you'd get back with C&S outside of DA is only as much as a single syphon strike, which nowhere near justifies losing that 60 second cooldown.
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    Kalos Ianei
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    Goblin
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Dererk View Post
    I'd rather have another defensive CD
    Then job change to Paladin.
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    Will Brannigan
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    Excalibur
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Disc View Post
    Then job change to Paladin.
    Drk has the same number as paladin so he'd be right where he started. Carve and Spit is rad and should be the model for how other Dark Arts abilities are made.
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