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    Kind of wishing Bards had kept Healer LB.

    The amount of Bards and Machinists I've seen using LB incorrectly is too high.

    I've seen them wait until adds on a boss are dead THEN use it.

    I've seen them kill trash and use it after all but a couple of mobs are dead.

    I've seen them use LB as soon as it's up without even giving me time to use it.

    I even had a bard tell me the other day that Bard LB does as much single target damage as melee LB.

    It's sad
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    as a career bard i do miss my healer LB
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    Not going to lie, there've been a couple times since Heavensward where the cry of our Mumble has been "Healer LB--crap they're dead! Bard LB--oh. right. shit."
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    Same as when a DPS caster uses LB when there is a melee LB user in PT. No different to those players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chiramu View Post
    Same as when a DPS caster uses LB when there is a melee LB user in PT. No different to those players.
    And now we've got bards/machinists doing it too. Making a problem worse isn't a fix to the problem or justification for others who are part of the problem.

    Besides, it may just be me, but I rarely have seen a caster waste LB.
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    Last edited by Adire; 07-09-2015 at 03:49 PM.

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    I wouldn't worry. Melee are not immune to these things and in the end a mistimed Limit Break rarely amounts to much.

    Besides that, there's a learning curve with anything. I'm sure more and more bards will get a handle on the limit break timing as time goes on.
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    A true paladin... will sheathe his sword.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WellFooled View Post
    I wouldn't worry. Melee are not immune to these things and in the end a mistimed Limit Break rarely amounts to much.

    Besides that, there's a learning curve with anything. I'm sure more and more bards will get a handle on the limit break timing as time goes on.
    Hopefully. I don't see why, if bards insist on using LB, that they've been waiting until the fewest amount of enemies possible are alive :x

    If they know how AoE works, they should know a single target LB is best against a single target. Seems a lot of people don't. There shouldn't be a learning curve there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adire View Post
    Hopefully. I don't see why, if bards insist on using LB, that they've been waiting until the fewest amount of enemies possible are alive :x

    If they know how AoE works, they should know a single target LB is best against a single target. Seems a lot of people don't. There shouldn't be a learning curve there.
    I find that If the way you treat other people is motivated chiefly by efficiency than you will never be happy and neither will the people around you. Different people have different ways of playing, different ways of thinking, and differing levels of ability, but always, without fail, no one is perfect. Life goes more smoothly by overlooking the little things than it does by getting the limit breaks just right.
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    Last edited by WellFooled; 07-09-2015 at 03:31 PM.
    A true paladin... will sheathe his sword.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adire View Post
    Hopefully. I don't see why, if bards insist on using LB, that they've been waiting until the fewest amount of enemies possible are alive :x
    The same reason why DPS wait until a boss has less than 10% HP left until they use theirs.

    Why this is, I still haven't figured out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    The same reason why DPS wait until a boss has less than 10% HP left until they use theirs.

    Why this is, I still haven't figured out.
    Monks lose all GL stacks, and it interrupts the super-tight DRG rotation, and pretty much every other job loses their buffs and debuffs during the cast. DPS LBs aren't a fast-cast like the Tank or Healer LB. You're basically sacrificing your next 30 seconds or so of damage output for one giant burst, so you want your next 30 seconds to not have to matter. There's also this thing called "saving it for the healers."
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