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    I like them for the most part, and don't see quite how they are breaking anything artistically. As for a more subtle glow, any more subtle and they wouldn't be glowing at all. It's not as if these were garishly flaring as in some other mmo's. But then, I guess that is Silver's point; any glow at all is verboten. Frankly, I don't agree, and wouldn't even mind armor based off this look. As log as it doesn't venture into the extreme like in the examples placed early on, I can't see it being a screw up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SilvertearRen View Post
    It's not about the graphic. It's about a perceived change in the art direction of FFXIV. I am worried that this is the first step in the direction of WoW-absurd-style art direction.

    I'm fine with the embers-style textures, although it could be dimmed a little bit more.

    What I really take issue with is the OMGWTF huge size of the horns on the weapons that makes it seem out of place.
    I doubt it, to be honest the only weapon I'm not fond of is the bow. Not because it's large, only because the top is bigger than the bottom.

    Lets face it, this game NEEDS a little pizazz in the gear and weapons. Wearing the same model in different colors for 50 levels has gotten REALLY old. Sure they might be a tad large, but honestly nothing so over the top that it deserves an "OMGWTFDATSWAP" kind of response you seem to be having.

    The weapons aren't going to turn the game into WoW 4.0, so just chill out and let the devs have a little artistic freedom over their own creation.
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    I know seven people who are coming back to XIV or starting out new because they like the direction SE is taking the game.

    7 > 5

    Quote Originally Posted by SilvertearRen View Post
    But don't be surprised if I end up leaving by year's end. It's just kind of getting tiresome watching this.
    I'm looking forward to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SilvertearRen View Post
    Actually, I see a net loss. Square has been losing people in the past. And I know five people who will not miss FFXIV if this current direction continues.

    Sadly, you cannot satisfy everyone. I'll just resort to DAT swaps then, to get rid of the horribadly-designed weapons. That way, I don't have to see people standing in the middle of Ul'dah in Active Mode showing them off.

    But don't be surprised if I end up leaving by year's end. It's just kind of getting tiresome watching this.
    I am sure there are more people coming in than out over these two videos. The argument is really going well in your favor.
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    I'm fine with those designs, perhaps the Pugilist and Archer weapons should be remade, though.
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    Pugilist and thaumatourge for me, the bow looks AWESOME!
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    Actually I think all pugilist weapons need a resize... people are just complaining about the size of ifrit's fist? All the HtH look overly large on my character I look at them and think if I punched something with those they would rotate toward me and I would be striking with my barefist...
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexNiculaie View Post
    I like them for the most part, and don't see quite how they are breaking anything artistically. As for a more subtle glow, any more subtle and they wouldn't be glowing at all. It's not as if these were garishly flaring as in some other mmo's. But then, I guess that is Silver's point; any glow at all is verboten. Frankly, I don't agree, and wouldn't even mind armor based off this look. As log as it doesn't venture into the extreme like in the examples placed early on, I can't see it being a screw up.
    See, I'd be fine if it were a subtle aetherial glow on a silver excalibur-style sword design, as if it were swirling around the blade, rather than a garish glow.

    Now, in the design of the Ifrit weapons, I really would have preferred to see the glow effects reduced by a couple thousand K's (Kelvin, for those who are familiar with lighting dynamics), and it'd still be noticeable, but not so much that it becomes a distraction.

    It's really not the glow I'm complaining about in general but the fact that the inclusion of the horn design as major functioning components of the weapons, and the fact that they are oversized, are things I take issue with. Like I've been saying in the past, for the Ifrit bow, I would have gone with using the horns as a handguard.

    Here's a description of how it would look like: Let's take the model of Kokoroon's Nestpicker, replace the metal plates with Ifrit's horns, cut in half along the middle, and the halves mounted where the metal plates are. They glow, too, in the same way the video shows.

    Tah-dah! Properly functional bow with Ifrit decor that LOOKS sensible.

    Using the horns themselves to mount the string seems...weird. There's no "rebounding tension" at all, except in the string - and we all know strings on a bow are NOT supposed to "stretch".
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    Quote Originally Posted by SilvertearRen View Post
    Actually, I see a net loss. Square has been losing people in the past. And I know five people who will not miss FFXIV if this current direction continues.

    Sadly, you cannot satisfy everyone. I'll just resort to DAT swaps then, to get rid of the horribadly-designed weapons. That way, I don't have to see people standing in the middle of Ul'dah in Active Mode showing them off.

    But don't be surprised if I end up leaving by year's end. It's just kind of getting tiresome watching this.
    Tired of watching what?
    My last 3 robes and cowls look exactly the same. My biggest complain of this game is the cut and paste look of the armors and i cant believe people would actually defend that. You are confusing consistency with repetitive.
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    Because Final Fantasy isn't known for oversized weapons or armor?
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