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    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah View Post
    Everyone does. Or should. Because no game is ever perfect.
    Expecting or demanding perfection from any human results in guaranteed disappointment. Pick your battles and compromise, because no one will ever be able to live up to your ridiculous standards. The abysmal server latency issue still hasn't been addressed, and you're upset because the weapons glow? We still can't effectively manage our linkshells or search for party members, and you're worried about lore and a story that hasn't been completely written yet?
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    Does that mean we shouldn't criticize any of it? Because there will always be more things to criticize?
    Absolutely not, but at the same time, should you criticize all of it? Is there anything that you can say, "That's good enough SE. Maybe it isn't perfect, but it's good enough. Move on to the next fire."
    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah View Post
    But let's cut the bullshit: You said what you did because you don't agree with me but had nothing to actually contribute. Trying to rationalize it is a hopeless endeavour because there is nothing to rationalize. You acted solely on emotion.
    I could make the same claim about you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eekiki View Post
    Expecting or demanding perfection from any human results in guaranteed disappointment.
    I don't expect or demand perfection. I expect improvement and there can be no improvement if nobody points out the flaws for the people in charge. This is no rocket science.


    Absolutely not, but at the same time, should you criticize all of it? Is there anything that you can say, "That's good enough SE. Maybe it isn't perfect, but it's good enough. Move on to the next fire."
    I don't criticize everything I find imperfect. Sometimes I defend their decisions because I think that they are good. Assuming that I do not find anything satisfactory is insulting. But do realize that I am not one to participate in meaningless chatter. If something is good enough, it is good enough. I won't criticize it. That doesn't mean I need to come out and say that it is good either. That may be beneficial on a personal level, but criticism is much more important as far as improving the actual product goes, and I find that ultimately more important. If there is no criticism to be found, the end result is good and should be assumed to be as such.

    I could make the same claim about you.
    Sure, but just like with the statement to make me go away there will be no argument to go with it. I explained my reasoning and I find it to be quite sensible. If you disagree, then the respectable thing to do would be to actually explain your reasoning as well. Why is what I say not sensible? Just coming out and saying it is not would be insulting, to be honest. Or just telling me to go away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah View Post
    I don't criticize everything I find imperfect. Sometimes I defend their decisions because I think that they are good. Assuming that I do not find anything satisfactory is insulting. But do realize that I am not one to participate in meaningless chatter. If something is good enough, it is good enough. I won't criticize it. That doesn't mean I need to come out and say that it is good either. That may be beneficial on a personal level, but criticism is much more important as far as improving the actual product goes, and I find that ultimately more important. If there is no criticism to be found, the end result is good and should be assumed to be as such.
    Constructive criticism means pointing out the positive along with the negative. Film critics don't only talk about the movies they don't like. Even people like The Filthy Critic, who is best known for his reviews of bad movies, knows enough to talk about films he actually enjoys.

    If all you do is talk about the negative and say to yourself, "Well I think this is good, so I don't need to say anything about it," is it any surprise to you when people make the assumption that all you do is whine and complain?

    It shouldn't be, because in essence that's exactly what you're doing.

    If SE isn't being told when they're doing something right, how do they know anything they do is being done right?
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    Last edited by Eekiki; 09-28-2011 at 10:48 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eekiki View Post
    Constructive criticism means pointing out the positive along with the negative.
    Constructive criticism means explaining your criticism and perhaps offering solutions. You don't need to say anything positive for it to be constructive.

    I'm not a movie critic.

    8 likes? Jesus Christ.

    is it any surprise to you when people make the assumption that all you do is whine and complain?
    It's not a surprise at all, never said it was. But that shouldn't even matter and there should be no one telling me to go away because of those false perceptions.

    If SE isn't being told when they're doing something right, how do they know anything they do is being done right?
    Because players don't complain about it, they did it right. Very simple and self-explanatory.

    You want to make it about the company's interests but this has nothing to do with the company. You acted on emotion and that is because you have a problem with people criticising the game instead of saying good things about it. The company won't benefit from that, but you will feel better. That's what this is about, so stop using SE as an excuse to justify your reaction.
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    Last edited by Betelgeuzah; 09-29-2011 at 04:34 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah View Post
    . But do realize that I am not one to participate in meaningless chatter. If something is good enough, it is good enough. I won't criticize it.
    I agreed a bit with your original post, but with your record of 1665 posts and the fact that you want to have the final word no matter what i don't agree with the above quote and had to mention it.

    On the OP topic however, the weapons do look a bit bulky. Design is beautiful however, so even if I won't see much of the screen while I shoot an arrow I will probably still enjoy it.
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