Ifrit Fight

[Xmbei]

I blame the job ordeal on Tanaka and whoever else decided to go with none final fantasy names for the classes, sure it is refreshing but then why call it final fantasy? Sure it is also more realistic but then again... it is called Final FANTASY for a reason you are allowed liberties in that regard. I was actually taken a back when I read that those were the names of the classes I was like... those are not FF at all...

[Akira_Tenshi]

OOOOOOOH! Nice!

[Khazar]

all items are cool but the thaumaturge weapon, it seems a ps move upside down or a ifrit mucus

[ChronicalSin]

Look at it this way, then.

A band you like releases several successful albums, and when they announce a new one, you already know you're going to buy it sight unseen. Why wouldn't you? You've been listening to this band since you were a kid!

But once you buy it and give it a listen, you see they've decided to record the album in a different style, and with all their instruments out of tune. How would you feel?

SE is getting back in tune with what the fans want. That's what's happening here.

But you're right about the people on these forums. Some of them will never be happy.

Then I would just not listen to that album and play the older ones and play other games.
I was a record deal musician myself, and I would NEVER write music that somebody else want to listen to.
I wrote music for expressing what I thought. Not what people wanted from it.
It just depends on how you look at games/music.

I know that they need to earn their money, ofcourse.
Dont get me wrong.

Just my two cents.

[Pulseczar]

But you're right about the people on these forums. Some of them will never be happy.

Indeed. Could you imagine being friends with these debbie-downers in real-life—constantly moping around and complaining about every little thing. I just don't get it. It gets you nowhere. I'm all for constructive feedback but these people bitch just for the sake of bitching.

[Arcell]

Yes on the Lodestone, which isn't in-game.

It's not that there's a problem with any of this content(I think it's all great) as much as it's a problem with the inconsistent story-telling. All of a sudden, a massively huge game-changing system(materia and jobs) are introduced out of nowhere through some random character or group of characters who "brought the secrets of a forbidden art back to Eorzea"? There's only so many times you can rely on that plot device before it becomes non-nonsensical and dumb(that number is zero times btw), and I can't really see how they're going to introduce something huge like jobs without taking a chainsaw to the already established lore. I'll be the first to admit that I don't play Final Fantasy games strictly for the story as I love intricate game systems, but a dyslexic story in any medium should be jarring as hell to anybody.

There's a way for them to introduce the jobs without "taking a chainsaw to the already existing lore". Jobs are separate from classes and as such may have their own lore. They can be offshoots of the classes, for example:

Thaumaturges, lore wise, focus on both life and death. Black Mage being their job, there could be a branch of the Thaumaturge's Guild that focuses specifically on death and the associated destructive magic. You would have to have sufficient knowledge of Thaumaturgy before you are allowed to join their ranks.

On the topic of the weapons though: Absolutely love them. They have a slight fire-based glow, which you would expect from the weapons obtained from what is essentially the God of Fire.

[Eekiki]

Everyone does. Or should. Because no game is ever perfect.

Expecting or demanding perfection from any human results in guaranteed disappointment. Pick your battles and compromise, because no one will ever be able to live up to your ridiculous standards. The abysmal server latency issue still hasn't been addressed, and you're upset because the weapons glow? We still can't effectively manage our linkshells or search for party members, and you're worried about lore and a story that hasn't been completely written yet?

Does that mean we shouldn't criticize any of it? Because there will always be more things to criticize?

Absolutely not, but at the same time, should you criticize all of it? Is there anything that you can say, "That's good enough SE. Maybe it isn't perfect, but it's good enough. Move on to the next fire."

But let's cut the bullshit: You said what you did because you don't agree with me but had nothing to actually contribute. Trying to rationalize it is a hopeless endeavour because there is nothing to rationalize. You acted solely on emotion.

I could make the same claim about you.

[Mushy]

Its hopefully going to turn into a FFT like job system

[akumutensai]

ohhh that is cool! gotta catch them all also please calm down, one set of slightly crazy weapons doesnt ruin the game. its final fantasy, a game known for over the top weapons. you are talking about the people who invented the gun blade.... not to mention the keyblade.

[Mushy]

Haha just noticed
90% in favor of bowharp
50% mixed feelings on glowing sword