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  1. #1
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    Pluvia's Avatar
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    Pluvia Zephyr
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 60

    BRD/MCH look here

    Bard
    the Wanderer's Minuet
    ・Action category has been changed from spell to ability.
    ・Damage increase has been increased from 20% to 30%.
    ・Cast time has been reduced from 3 to 0 seconds.
    ・Recast time has been increased from 2.5 to 15 seconds.

    Empyreal Arrow ・Potency has been reduced from 240 to 220.

    Sidewinder
    ・Potency has been reduced from 150 to 100.
    ・Potency when target is suffering from either Venomous Bite or Windbite has been reduced from 250 to 175.
    ・Potency when target is suffering from both Venomous Bite and Windbite has been reduced from 350 to 250.


    Machinist
    Gauss Barrel
    ・Damage increase has been increased from 20% to 30%.
    ・Cast time has been reduced from 3 to 0 seconds.
    ・Recast time has been increased from 2.5 to 15 seconds.

    Gauss Round
    ・Potency has been reduced from 200 to 180.

    Ricochet
    ・Potency of the area attack has been reduced from 300 to 200.
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    Last edited by Pluvia; 07-07-2015 at 05:18 PM.

  2. #2
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    Panasync's Avatar
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    Character
    Panasync Dilaudid
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 60
    Wow, full 100 off double dot potency SW.

    I don't even like WM, think it's a horrible tacked on skill, but we'll see how it feels now that it's insta-cast.

    I don't think I'll ever be a fan of WM, but it's an improvement, and an early one at that. I am not sure how I feel about having to be in WM to achieve the same potential, and losing more potential for being out of it. I don't know if it feels like a reward to be in WM or a punishment considering I don't like the stance to begin with.
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    Last edited by Panasync; 07-07-2015 at 05:29 PM.

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    Ari Gatou
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 80
    Man... those potency hits suck. Sidewinder nerfed, too.. Are you kidding me. I really don't like the potency hits at all. Ugh.

    WM buffs are good but at the expense of all that potency..

    EDIT: This is a pretty good buff overall, sure the sidewinder nerfs suck, but looking at the changes overall. It's a definite improvement.

    Quote Originally Posted by seekified View Post
    People have to keep in mind that the 10% increase on WM negates the potency loss somewhat. Sidewinder becomes a 95 potency loss, sure. Empyreal Arrow is only 2 potency though because 240 * 1.2 = 288 whereas 220 * 1.3 = 286. So that's not even worth mentioning. Considering all other skills are buffed by 10%, I think this'll be a nice improvement, plus the obvious stancedancing benefits.

    Anyone being "250ish or more dps" behind other jobs just weren't doing it right, even before this patch.
    Good point!

    Quote Originally Posted by Panasync View Post
    Well to be fair they gave WM/GB a 10% flat increase in damage. The nerf to SW is really nerfing non-WM (which only increases the issues for those that weren't concerned with damage and just the design).
    Yeah, good point. I was taken aback by the potency hits to Sidewinder and didn't look at the bigger picture.
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    Last edited by Escadora; 07-07-2015 at 06:29 PM.
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  4. #4
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    Quinton Lightblaze
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Pluvia View Post
    Bard
    the Wanderer's Minuet ・Action category has been changed from spell to ability.
    ・Damage increase has been increased from 20% to 30%.
    ・Cast time has been reduced from 3 to 0 seconds.
    ・Recast time has been increased from 2.5 to 15 seconds.
    Empyreal Arrow ・Potency has been reduced from 240 to 220.
    Sidewinder ・Potency has been reduced from 150 to 100.
    ・Potency when target is suffering from either Venomous Bite or Windbite has been reduced from 250 to 175.
    ・Potency when target is suffering from both Venomous Bite and Windbite has been reduced from 350 to 250.


    Machinist
    Gauss Barrel ・Damage increase has been increased from 20% to 30%.
    ・Cast time has been reduced from 3 to 0 seconds.
    ・Recast time has been increased from 2.5 to 15 seconds.
    Gauss Round ・Potency has been reduced from 200 to 180.
    Ricochet ・Potency of the area attack has been reduced from 300 to 200.
    So the question is if the damage increase on weaponskills equal the loss of potency of these abilities? I'll wait to pass judgement on the changes till I see what a good MCH/BRD can do, but I'm skeptical...
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    Last edited by zcrash970; 07-07-2015 at 05:26 PM.
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  5. #5
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    Panasync's Avatar
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    Panasync Dilaudid
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    Balmung
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    Archer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Escadora View Post
    Man... those potency hits suck. Sidewinder nerfed, too.. Are you kidding me. I really don't like the potency hits at all. Ugh.

    WM buff's are good but at the expense of all that potency..
    Well to be fair they gave WM/GB a 10% flat increase in damage. The nerf to SW is really nerfing non-WM (which only increases the issues for those that weren't concerned with damage and just the design).
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    Player
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    Pluvia Zephyr
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    Ragnarok
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    White Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by zcrash970 View Post
    EDITING...........
    Was on my phone so could only copy paste it i made it look better now.
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    Aeon Rakshasa
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    Lich
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    Bard Lv 100
    Expected all of that/10

    While I'm still sad that SW doesn't hit like a truck...............
    it makes sense.
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    Seifa Chante
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    Archer Lv 60
    BRD and MCH dps are fine, we won't balance them yet. Two days later, rebalanced WM and GB. Seriously, i think someone at SE is drunk.
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  9. #9
    Player
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seifa View Post
    BRD and MCH dps are fine, we won't balance them yet. Two days later, rebalanced WM and GB. Seriously, i think someone at SE is drunk.
    Except that's not what he said at all
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  10. #10
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    ChalupaBatman's Avatar
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    Shu Kuchi
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    Ninja Lv 60
    Nice, although I don't get the pot decrease on sidewinder since it already has a long CD, EA I get but SW?

    Going to give it a shot and see just how much increase this has on DPS.

    Although I prefer they just kept BRD with the same playstyle, I'm okay with them forcing WM in my face if its a significant increase is DPS.
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