I chose BRD for swift gameplay, if I wanted to cast I would have chosen a Mage.

[Vespar]

Q12. The bard playstyle changed a lot in 3.0. Can you please let us know how bards are supposed to fight from here on out?

A12. Bards can attack while moving, therefore they have advantage over handling mechanics as well as the ability to support party members. Our image of bards from the development side is that by making them stationary in 3.0, they are now able to increase their DPS. However, we made adjustments so bards will be able to switch between their stances easier. This doesn’t mean that they won’t be able to deal damage while moving, and bards will understand when to switch between stances once they get used to the content, as well as experiment how they can output more DPS changing between stances.

I guess I'll be swapping classes then. While I could play the way they want me to, I dont feel its fun that way now and Im not going to play a class if I dont find it fun.

[Reinha]

I guess I'll be swapping classes then. While I could play the way they want me to, I dont feel its fun that way now and Im not going to play a class if I dont find it fun.

Yup. They could have given us a song that makes us choose between dps and support (by using mp) but instead bards have to choose between dps and mobility. Goodbye bard. I also wished for some kind of support that's useful outside of raiding, like a melee damage increase or defensive aoe buff. But noooo, they gave astro all the cool party buffs. Summoners can still ress the healer, ninja can goad the tank without a dps loss and scholar can give haste buffs. How come bards have the worst support in 4 mans when they are supposed to be a support role?

Edit. Even when I leveled bard the first time, I was exited about the songs... only to be told to turn them off in every dungeon because it made things go slower. Finally when I started running CT for gear I felt like I was helping my team. Everyone keeps saying raid raid raid savage still needs bards bla bla, but what about the rest of the game? It's a very big contradiction to have our job quest emphasize the importance of songs when nearly every dungeon team is better of without them.

If bards are support, give them actual support that's useful in every kind of content! Too overpowered you say? It's odd how ninja, dragoon, monk, summoner, scholar and astro still get to perform their role fully while also providing support that's useful outside of raids. Even though I have found another job I like, I still wish they made bard and mch more useful (better dps OR better support) in the content I enjoy because things go slower with them around.

[Reneo]

Honestly, just take of WM and keep everything else the same. Potency be damned. >.> Play a mobile class with less damage. Don't complain why other dps do more damage.

Seriously, this seems to be the solution for it. Just take out WM and replace with another skill. Or you know. Go back to it being op again.

Whatever.

[Gallus]

BRDs have been and I swear they currently are the most mandatory class in every piece of serious content...yet they are the ones who complain more.

DRGs was useless for months, BLMs were subpar for a long period of time. WARs tanked less than a BRD under blood for blood at the beginning of the 2.0. SMNs drained their mana with a couple Ruin II.

BRDs have never had to go through stuff such as "no BRDs" in PF parties and the like. They were insultingly op at i90 and ridiculously strong at i110-i135. And now, they are still mandatory (wanna bet something first savage clears have a BRD?).

[Reneo]

Exactly. Give them a skill that hands them a boost of dps even slightly, complain. They seem to want to be up par with Black mage dps. Then they complain about standing still and doing more damage, *cough* black mage*cough*.

They need to understand that their mobility comes with the price of damage.

>.>

[Lewtskie]

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Indeed, they should just shut up and be happy, even if they don't enjoy their new playstyle because they get to be dragged into raids purely for the class mechanics they aren't having issues with.

This is just another way of saying Bards should only exist to be Jukeboxes.

Hey, it even gets better now since we have a new song that entirely useless everywhere BUT in raids. Guess that just further nails in the point that songs are all that matter, eh?

[Rikkustrife]

BRDs have been and I swear they currently are the most mandatory class in every piece of serious content...yet they are the ones who complain more.

DRGs was useless for months, BLMs were subpar for a long period of time.

Dragoons and black mages were always fun to play though

Though I do agree the complaining is getting annoying, at least the complaints are valid.

[Nadrojj]

They should have just buffed the potency and called it a day instead of tweak after tweak.

[Gallus]

Indeed, they should just shut up and be happy, even if they don't enjoy their new playstyle because they get to be dragged into raids purely for the class mechanics they aren't having issues with.

This is just another way of saying Bards should only exist to be Jukeboxes.

Hey, it even gets better now since we have a new song that entirely useless everywhere BUT in raids. Guess that just further nails in the point that songs are all that matter, eh?

Problem is fun falls into the subjective category. My SCH too has changed in 3.0. Fairy scaling is pretty bull now, and SCH is like 90% of the heals now while fairy is only like the 10% (fairy was more relevant in ARR). We could argue about how that kills the essence of SCH since the fairy has been triviallized a lot...or SMNs;...same story, most of the damage comes from the SMN now, pet's damage is very little compared to ARR, also, SMN rotation has drastically changed. I don't see however, any SMNs or SCHs complaining...

[Cirgellon]

I don't see however, any SMNs or SCHs complaining...

A rotation change isn't even close to a full playstyle change. Bards went from mobile to stationary. They can't use ogcd skills the same. They have cast times on all of their gcd skills, which means the functionality of almost every single skill was changed. There is very little about the bard that didn't change. Almost every skill changed along with the overall way the class plays.

Or we can skip WM and be even further behind in damage than we were before as everyone else got a new bag of tricks and we got nothing(without WM).

As I said in another thread, I wasn't under the impression that bard was so broken that it needed a complete rework. Having to redo your rotation due to new skills would be expected...