Alexander token loot system using DF. How does it compare to COIL loot system. Math?

[DoctorPepper]

It's difficult to determine the actual percentages of obtaining loot because the variable of who is rolling on what items changes from party to party. All you can determine as a definite value would be the chance that something you want will drop.

Basically the chance to see an item you want drop increases by a significant amount but the chance to actually obtain the item will vary from party to party based on loot preferences.

As far as I can tell, if 3 other players specifically want the loot you want and nothing else then your chances are the same as coil. If more than that want the same specific item as you then your chances are lower.

The other factor to consider however is that if you're willing to roll on any of the available loot that drops rather than a specific piece, you will have a slightly higher chance to obtain loot than you did before in coil picking specific items or jobs. If some people in the party are passing specific items then your chance will increase further by rolling on anything that drops.

[Bojobear]

...But the odds are better, cause multiples of the same thing can drop. Like in A4 last night, two shafts dropped same run

[DoctorPepper]

...But the odds are better, cause multiples of the same thing can drop. Like in A4 last night, two shafts dropped same run

On the other side of the coin, there is also a chance that 2 of the same thing that you don't want can drop as well, 1/3 is the same as 2/6.

One thing I wasn't taking into consideration as well is that you need multiple items to get a piece of gear. That decreases the odds of actually getting a piece of equipment as well since you have to win 2-4 times instead of a single time.

[EdgeFayth]

...But the odds are better, cause multiples of the same thing can drop. Like in A4 last night, two shafts dropped same run

Well, RNG...
A friend wanted a spring on F4. He did it 10 times in a row, and did not see even one. At the same time, my group dropped 6 springs in 4 runs.
RNG...

For me this is definitely better than before. But I can see getting the items you want outside of a static group can be tricky (people in PF will leave once they got their items, and you have to fight against potentially 7 other people in DF).

I think a system a la 3.0 EX primals would have been better.

[Namida-Hikari]

Well, RNG...
A friend wanted a spring on F4. He did it 10 times in a row, and did not see even one. At the same time, my group dropped 6 springs in 4 runs.
RNG...

That's exactly why I hate this loot system!!! Did 9 runs and don't even get one loot. Farming again and again to see newcomers roll for the first time and get the loot you're here for since hours... NOT FAIR.

[Zfz]

newcomers roll for the first time and get the loot you're here for since hours... NOT FAIR.

This is entirely fair and the only fair way, for PUGs. If you want a system that takes into consideration your total time invested, you need a static. DF frees you from the burdens of a static but in exchange it treats everyone equally.