Speed Runs Suck

[Urielparadox]

That doesn't make any sense. You could do the same thing you are doing with big groups to hold threat in small groups. How is it easier? If anything, it's much harder as some dps start single targeting random mobs in the big group.

You are trying to rationalize your terrible behavior and you arent making any sense while doing so...

Because tanks only single target rotation on a marked mob and refuse to use their aoe skill, and I'll pull of the adds using only thunder and thunder starter on them on blm, or just Bain on smn. I'm also not going to us a 3k firestarter when a mob has 1k hp left I'll change targets for it. I even stated if a tank has no issues with hate i will do what the party wants done, so way to not read. High five.

[Cirgellon]

Because tanks only single target rotation on a marked mob and refuse to use their aoe skill, and I'll pull of the adds using only thunder and thunder starter on them on blm, or just Bain on smn. I'm also not going to us a 3k firestarter when a mob has 1k hp left I'll change targets for it. I even stated if a tank has no issues with hate i will do what the party wants done, so way to not read. High five.

I read what you zaid and you aren't asking the tank... You also failed to explain how exactly it's easier to tank more mobs. That may be the dumbest thing I've read today lol...

[Delorean]

As a tank, you're the one who sets the run speed in regular dungeons. Don't like to speedrun? Just pull small packs. DPS trying to pull more packs? Let them die, unless they can actually manage to tank them.

yep

slow down the entire group because you can't hit flash, abyssal drain/unleash or overpower a few times

and then of course, rattle off a few insults and leave your group for criticizing your behavior. On the next episode of Prima Donna Tank, we'll be showing you how to react to having two bards in your 4 man dungeon. Stay tuned!

That doesn't make any sense. You could do the same thing you are doing with big groups to hold threat in small groups. How is it easier? If anything, it's much harder as some dps start single targeting random mobs in the big group.

+1

[Wintersandman]

it's easier to hold hate on multiple groups.

Depends on the Tank. It is more efficient to hold hate on multiple groups. It is also level dependent.

The tank does not set the pace the party does.

The Tank is part of the party. If the tank doesn't have the gear levels there is no way he will handle large pulls, manage the threat, and stay alive. You have to go at the tanks comfort levels.

I don't think there's a whole lot of actual speedrunning happening in low-level dungeons, so you could go on and give healing a try as well.

You would be surprised. I had a tank rush off in Brayflox normal and die before he got settled then blamed me for not being able to keep up with heals. He never said hello, or anything.

[VargasVermillion]

If they designed interesting trash mechanics you probably wouldn't be able to speed run, but since we can just pull everything and aoe mobs down SR will always exist in some form.
In regards to what I think has the best trash segments in the game? I think the original CT did, each trash area was a mini encounter in it'self, not just large amounts of useless enemies with little mechanics. Granted these got diminished with new gear but everything does eventually.

[Beckett]

The first thing to do is look up guides on dungeons before you enter them. It takes far less time for you to read a guide ahead of time than it does for someone to type out the rules for every encounter.

As far as speedrunning is concerned, most of the folks running these dungeons have already been through them dozens of times and want to get through them as quickly as possible, however trying to speedrun with a low geared/leveled tank, healer or even DPS can actually make the dungeon take longer if you're constantly wiping to big pulls. If that is happening, then let your party know that, because you are new and don't have the survivability/healing ability/damage output of an ilevel capped player, it would be faster to do small pulls and survive, than do large pulls and wipe.

If you aren't wiping, and your only complaint is that things are too hectic, then seriously, get over it. Any encounter you live through is a success.

[Urielparadox]

I explained exactly how tanks aren't doing what needs to be done to hold a small group because they think 1-2 aoe, single target 1 mob only, and done for the whole pack, they don't rotate combo and they don't aoe again. You try to tell them and they say they know their job and still don't. If a tan k is put in a situation to hold multiple mobs they will spam their aoe. Thus easier. Most bad tanks don't pay attention to the multiple agro meters. I shouldn't need to give that detailed of an explanation. .. this is no different then what I said in my last 2 post

[Wintersandman]

The first thing to do is look up guides on dungeons before you enter them. It takes far less time for you to read a guide ahead of time than it does for someone to type out the rules for every encounter.

I disagree as I can type out the rules in seconds. Brevity is the thing to learn.

Here are some examples:

Research Last Boss:
Dodge, Kill Ice Orb first, Get in Black Hole during Universal Manipulation, 3rd phase eat orbs to the face.

Fractal Last Boss:
Kill adds, Avoid Mines, stay off glowing squares

Raid Guides over complicate a lot and reality only make things more intimidating when in actuality it is not.

[AriaEnia]

I agree, I've never read any guides when first time doing dungeons from 2.50 as a tank (except for primal fights) because tank's roles is so easy. I usually ask for the party for instruction, they usually say 1 liners like "tank and spank", "dodge aoe", etc and been successful ever since, never a wipe occurs.

And I wish there's mute button when dfing.

I as a tank never do speed running while lv synced, like dungeons lv 49 and under, also lv 51 and above, except 60 probably when my main story reaches there.

[Galgarion]

Just go at the pace you want. They still need you for boss fights and they aren't going to kick you and wait around fifteen minutes for a replacement. No, you won't get any comms, and that sucks and can feel like a personal attack, but grow a thick skin and do what you gotta do.