Speed Runs Suck

[Fevelle]

The entire argument is invalidated by the gating se has been putting into dungeons for the past year. 2 groups at once is not a speed run, is simply efficient. It is doable in the bare minimum gear without much risk to the group. Unless your healer is a complete idiot or dcs, there is nothing to worry about.

Yes, let's forget about respecting someone who doesn't feel secure with speedrunning a dungeon just because it's "efficient". Never forget you are on the Duty Finder, and the sole purpose of Duty Finder isn't giving you tomestones, it's making old players help new players.

[WingsOfAzrael]

they only suck in exp dungeons if the tank doesn't ask the rest of the party if they're ok with it

[Lucke]

I think SE buffed the mobs in the HW dungeons, certainly the level 60 ones. I think SE did that to dissuade people from doing speedruns. As a DRK in full law with 15k HP, I get absolutely wrecked if I pull more than 2 groups (and even then 2 groups is too much. Might be more possible to do speedruns in HW dungeons in full Eso sets, but in Law, it's better to just pull one group at a time.

BTW, any tank worth their salt will let the stupid DPS die if they pull mobs trying to hurry the group up. Tanks and to a lesser extent healers, choose the pace, not the DPS. You wanna control the pace, then be a tank/healer.

[ValkyrieL]

Personally/fc will instantly drop if tank is going at a snail pace.

[Februs]

Sure, and what happens when they say, "Yes. Pull big," and then suck? Then they blame the tank for sucking

If you enjoy tanking, then you'll have to get over this. I'll give you a veteran's tip. The tank gets blamed for EVERYTHING. It's just a common thing. Dps never blame themselves for being too slow (and hardly know if they are too slow because parsers are illegal in game), and healers like to cover their asses. Some are good. Some are bad. Some think they are good but can be better.
If someone complains about your tanking you only have TWO questions to ask yourself. 1. Did I hold aggro? If yes, then you did 90% of your job. Congrats. 2. Did I do everything I could to mitigate the dmg I was receiving (ie. pop appropriate Cd's, buffs etc.)? If yes, then great! You did 100% of your job and the healer and/or dps just suck. If they complain, who cares? You know that you did your part as well as you could.

[Februs]

I assume that there is something I am doing wrong when approaching the issue.

It's hard to say if you're doing something wrong without actually seeing you tank, but a few months of tanking means you're likely inexperienced.
Speed runs come with knowledge, gear level and a solid team. Overgeared tanks laugh all day at the idea of doing baby pulls, but no amount of gear will save you if the healer can't keep up, or the dps are too slow and lets the mob outlives your Cd's. Doing a solid speed run requires knowing where all the mobs are, which can be skipped (if any), and how to best bundle them up into neat little packages for the dps. That comes with repetitive runs.
Tanks have a lot of responsibility. There's no easy way around that. No one doing their roulette for tome bonuses, least of all the dps who que for hours just to be there, want to spend all day in a dungeon they know can be cleared in half the time.

[Shuri]

It annoys me so much when I used to play WHM and a tank tries to 'speed run' through a dungeon, when both DPS are single target focused DPS.

Happens a lot less now though, well, especially when I'm the tank

[Vickii]

I have been in maybe 10-20 dungeons so far. One tank ran through the instance, pulled everything and died because we weren't expecting it.

Asides from that every one has been a normal run. I think once or twice we probably skipped some trash/chests but i've never really felt rushed or that it's going too fast.

[Synestra]

If I'm tanking and the DPS deliberately pulls another group of mobs, they're telling me that they want to do my job. I'll let them until they die. If the healer for some reason heals them, I'll make sure the mobs don't go for the healer, but I won't pull mobs off of someone who deliberately pulled mobs to themselves, just like I wouldn't fight for aggro with an off tank.

If you do this then you are a bad tank plain and simple, tanks role is to adapt and carry the group if it comes to that. I know its sometimes annoying when whole group makes your job total nightmare, so you should take it as an combat training for end-game because nothing is better training than running dungeons with tards. ^^

PS: I love when caster/healer pop sprit and grabs extra pack from further ahead so i can slack and stand still.

[Twilite]

I have been in maybe 10-20 dungeons so far. One tank ran through the instance, pulled everything and died because we weren't expecting it.

Asides from that every one has been a normal run. I think once or twice we probably skipped some trash/chests but i've never really felt rushed or that it's going too fast.

There is a such thing as pulling too much for even the tank to handle. Usually..experienced tanks are confident in pulling 3+ rooms, but an unexperienced one..better not. When I'm on BLM, I am always in speed runs for obvious reasons, but I've seen so REALLY HUGE pulls because tank over zealousness, and wipe happens because waaaay too many.