Quote Originally Posted by DkDerek View Post
If a tank wipes us pulling too much, I definitely don't get mad. Good on you for pushing yourself. You're trying to improve everyone in the group.

If you pull one pack at a time, I will pull for you, tank things myself,and eventually initiate a vote kick.

We as a community need to breed better players. The average skill level of ffxiv players is horrifyingly low. Pushing yourself is the only way to improve.
Quote Originally Posted by DkDerek View Post
I'll meet you at the 300 threads about nerfing content because shitters can't handle it.
Actually, what you're describing is why we don't have better players. Mass pulling and "burn baby, burn" creates the bad players, not the good ones. It might help improve a tank on learning threat control and damage mitigation, or a healer on keeping everyone alive. For a DPS however all it does is create AoE happy bad players. And when harder dungeons come out the reason why people cry for nerfs is because they can't mass pull and burn at first. If you train people to burn down 30 things at once instead speed killing smaller groups then you have to break that mindset and get them to play correctly when needed for harder gameplay.