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    Quote Originally Posted by VisRalis View Post
    As well as ignore the emote /slap /laugh /angry spam they give you.
    Healers & DPS fking around with Marks and Waysigns all over the place.
    Healers keeping your HP@30% just to fk with you (I mean so they can DPS more) then fking you around more cuz you pull less because healer hasn't been keeping you topped up.

    Yeah. A lot of thick skin needed.
    I'm sorry, but healers don't DPS to mess with the tank. They DPS to kill enemies, which causes less damage to be dealt over the course of the battle, and to speed up runs as a whole. What you're describing isn't a disruptive healer, but a healer that toes the line, taking a calculated risk to push out as much damage as they can before bringing the tank out of danger. The healer is placing their faith in you to not make mistakes, dodge well and mitigate properly, just as you place your faith in them to keep you alive. So long as both of you do your part, the risk is a success. And it should be, every time. If not, the healer miscalculated and needs to make adjustments. If you're not comfortable with that, speak up. The healer is gauging the battle based on their own comfort level, they don't know where you stand.

    The other behavior you described, if it continues consistently, can be handled with a harassment kick, if they are so disruptive about it.

    I myself enjoy a good speed run when I overgear the dungeon. When ilevels are close, or strict level sync is in place, I'd prefer a normal run over drawn out AoE packs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seryl199 View Post
    I'm sorry, but healers don't DPS to mess with the tank.
    Reality is that these disruptive players don't give a crap.
    All this talk of faith is old news and idealism to them.
    They just want their crap and run done with disregard to other ppl. (Old news yup)
    After (or even before) 1st wipe due to overzealous DPS or Healer's too busy DEE(r)Psing, I find it best to just leave party and leave them to do their monkey business to themselves.

    /shrug
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    People need to realise we were all newbies and going through the duty finder means getting newbies and shouldnt be speed running, find a party for that!

    I take my time if its my first dungeon so I can get the lay-out, with so much going on its hard to get your bearings.

    I had tank run off to mob then run off to grab more and come back, overwhelmed healer, tank kept dying. I had to stop being DPS to help heal, which shouldnt happen. Tank ranting and healer was upset saying he was new and didnt know what was happening. No one should feel that way.

    When I started mine dungeon, I didnt know not to attack blob, everyone calling me names. Told them its my first mmorpg ever, first in dungeon. One said sorry and helped, others kept shouting.

    Go find party to speedrun, dont act high and mighty because your lvl 60, there may be somone only lvl 19. Im lvl 35 only started dungeons as I like to do other things than main story.

    Everyone was new once, be nice.
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    Also to add on to above post.

    People need to be patient with the chat option not everyone uses the pc or has a keyboard. I use the ps4 and dont have a keyboard so for me to type I need to scroll to every letter and have to stop moving which takes time.

    So if you ask a q in a dungeon dont just run off until you get an answer as others will be in the same position.

    Think about others not just yourself. Dont be so selfish as I am hoping people werent brought up like that :/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mcortes89 View Post
    People need to be patient with the chat option not everyone uses the pc or has a keyboard. I use the ps4 and dont have a keyboard so for me to type I need to scroll to every letter and have to stop moving which takes time.
    Bit off topic but you should consider investing in a wireless keyboard, they work on the PS4 and will be very helpful for this game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pandalink View Post
    Bit off topic but you should consider investing in a wireless keyboard, they work on the PS4 and will be very helpful for this game.
    Yeah I know but just wanted to add that as I had someone annoyed that I wasnt responding lol. Yeah I bought one the other day, waiting for it to arrive, it just clips into the ps4 controller
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    Quote Originally Posted by VisRalis View Post
    Reality is that these disruptive players don't give a crap.
    All this talk of faith is old news and idealism to them.
    They just want their crap and run done with disregard to other ppl. (Old news yup)
    After (or even before) 1st wipe due to overzealous DPS or Healer's too busy DEE(r)Psing, I find it best to just leave party and leave them to do their monkey business to themselves.

    /shrug
    Being a main healer, that's my point of view for DPS'ing as a healer. Idealistic, maybe, but that's how I feel. I'm absolutely confident in my abilities to gauge how much damage the tank is taking, and I've already got my next couple moves charted out to chunk the tank back up when they're ready.

    That said, I'll concede on your point about legitimately disruptive players. Like I said, I'm a healer main, so I don't get to see the other side of the fence much. I started my PLD at 51 yesterday, and ran Dusk Vigil for the first time on it. I was on point with CD's, would pull the next pack without delay, and the healer would spam DPS till they were nearly OOM then jump around in front of my character and be passive aggressive in chat. I agree with you there, I don't want to deal with that attitude, so I left. It's not the DPS I have a problem with, it's the disregard to other people, in a pug of all things, that frustrates me.
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