Speed Runs Suck

[Fevelle]

Is it this hard to ask if the party wants to speedrun?

1. Open the chat and say "Everyone is fine with a speedrun?"
2. Wait for the answers.
3. 3 or more 'yes' = speed run that baby up
4. 2 or more 'no' = normal pace the dungeon

"Oh but I want to speedrun, I've done this place multiple times and blah blah blah" - Get out of Duty Finder and try using the Party Finder to gather a speedrun group. Voilà!

[Drtoxicmedica]

Only time I get upset when dps or heals pull extra mobs are when I have a brd/mch and a melee and if they pull more when i have casters etc they have a death wish because I've already pulled as much as i know my Cd's can handle. I like pulling big and getting in and out as much as the next guy but I feel no need to get bashed in the face for a solid minute and a half when I could be chain pulling instead. If I have one our more caster or brd/mch with a caster I'll pull accordingly. Not saying 2 melee can't wreck a big set of mobs but getting them in random df groups is rare and not something I care to test.

[Skuldheim]

I get upset when speed running is done with newbies around or if someone says "smaller pulls, please" and someone still runs off. Another time is when tank literally just pulls a bunch, stays long enough for DPS to start hitting them to get aggro, then leaves the group with a bunch of mobs and I get all the aggro because I heal. And I'm not talking about new tanks, I talk about those jerks on level 50 or so that just don't care in lower level dungeons.

As a healer I can do my job most of the time (sometimes even when I thought I'd never get through it and have desperatedly healed everyone to the point where i'm out of MP seconds before mobs are dead), but if I see someone else is having trouble, I will ask for smaller pulls, just like I will say bigger ones is okay for me if I see everyone is doing well.

[Amelia_Pond_Behemoth]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7873rVbako

[Dami]

It really depends on the server you are in. In the JP servers you don't really see much of any speedruns. They tend to do things slower or at a much more regular pace. It is mostly the EN community that thinks speed-runs are the norm.

[Twilite]

I've had it happen. Pulling before me and tanking things, with the healer healing them. It was like I wasn't even there. So I just left. And this was tam tara and I was a new tank. Speed running is actually scary to me as a tank.

As a DPS, I guess I'm every tanks best friend. I never pull before them.. and the other DPS doesn't either. Ya know, I try to be nice and easy going in my groups..

[Eul]

It really depends on the server you are in. In the JP servers you don't really see much of any speedruns. They tend to do things slower or at a much more regular pace. It is mostly the EN community that thinks speed-runs are the norm.

I once met this speed run when on The Vault and I could say all JP people want things done as fast as possible (Thus if failed they say sorry and do normal run lol)

[Luvbunny]

It really depends on the server you are in. In the JP servers you don't really see much of any speedruns. They tend to do things slower or at a much more regular pace. It is mostly the EN community that thinks speed-runs are the norm.

Very very true indeed lol, they may pull 2 packs of mobs, but they don't try to pull the entire areas unless you are doing Wanderer Palace easy mode. Japan servers more consistent, most harder endgame dungeons at level 50 is 25 minutes or less (20 if your group is good). The easier dungeons are 20 minutes or less (12-15 minutes with seasoned speed runners, or even less than that).

[Dawnblade]

Go tank and don't speed run then. I just started tanking when dark knight came and I didn't do any speed runs while leveling. No one said a word about it. If they did, I would have just ignored them. You are the tank. You get to control the pace.

Couple of things:

First, as mentioned in other posts, dps will sometimes pull mobs. The "let them die" method doesn't work when the healer might decide to heal the dps and then you have no choice.

Second is that people can actually dismiss you from the dungeon for refusing to speed run. Since two votes is majority in 4 men content, all it takes is the 2 dps to vote yes and you are out. Sure, now they will have to wait a good 5-10min for a new tank to join while the tank can get into another instance instantly. But if you get the boot right before the last boss as I've heard stories about, you just wasted 30min for nothing.

So running as a tank does not altogether solve this issue.

[Nicobo]

IMO an experienced tank only run very fast when he thinks the group is good enough and capable to do that.
I will be glad and appreciate when I was a healer or DPS and having such a great tank who make the content really fun.

Ofcoz I don't feel the tank is bad if he pulls one by one as long as he has concentrated on the fight.
But in practical, I found some ppl running dungeons while chatting with FC (keep mt to the Party about discussing BiS with FC ..etc ^^; )
or preparing food (suddenly brb before boss bcoz the pizza is done after 3min oven... when did the oven start? when pulling the 3rd pack? ^^; )
In above cases I think that player may perform a lot poor due to human multi-tasking limitation.