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    If there isnt people shouting for party/doing raid/chatting in LS then I considered this game is fail. But I think it is not atm, at least in Wutai. Let SE who worry on getting new player,while we enjoying our time in Eorzea...with people that playing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aion View Post
    If there isnt people shouting for party/doing raid/chatting in LS then I considered this game is fail. But I think it is not atm, at least in Wutai. Let SE who worry on getting new player,while we enjoying our time in Eorzea...with people that playing.
    SE is a corporation
    a Corporation MUST seek profits under the law since they are responsible to shareholders
    If a product is operating at a loss it is a failure for the time being
    If that product can be turned around and become profitable it is a success

    This game has run a year without profit. that means profits will have to make up for paying 100+ employees for a year or more. Until that happens the game is a failure because it has failed to turn a profit which is the sole goal of creating a product.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azurymber View Post
    SE is a corporation
    a Corporation MUST seek profits under the law since they are responsible to shareholders
    If a product is operating at a loss it is a failure for the time being
    If that product can be turned around and become profitable it is a success

    This game has run a year without profit. that means profits will have to make up for paying 100+ employees for a year or more. Until that happens the game is a failure because it has failed to turn a profit which is the sole goal of creating a product.
    This game is suffer from failed lauch. Do the shareholder want same mistake happen again? SE didnt charge player as an apology and as chance to get beta-tester for their upcoming PS3 release. Is it that hard to understand?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aion View Post
    This game is suffer from failed lauch. Do the shareholder want same mistake happen again? SE didnt charge player as an apology and as chance to get beta-tester for their upcoming PS3 release. Is it that hard to understand?
    Thus making the game a financial failure and failure in general FOR THE TIME BEING.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azurymber View Post
    Until that happens the game is a failure because it has failed to turn a profit which is the sole goal of creating a product.
    Ok, I agree with this part, but from a stockholder point of view only. I don't see this as a failure from a player point of view. I am playing for free and I am enjoying every second of it. Everything SE has done since I started playing has been an improvement to the original state the game was in when I joined.

    With this said, it is heading in the right direction, but changes take time. I am patient because i know it could end up as a great game. If it doesn't, what did i lose? Nothing.

    I don't agree with your point on making this a single player. It sort of contradicts your post I am referencing here because a single player game would only bring profit at purchase. You finish the game, people move on. This is planned for 5+ years, where it would normally bring 10 times more.

    SE is on the right path in my opinion.
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    "allow SE to hire more ppl"

    have you ever coded anything in your life?

    more people != quality
    more people = more memory leak
    more people = more discussion
    more people = more time used on not programming.

    also, if they wanted money, they wpould make it p2p, but they get LOTS of money from their other games at the same time. People also atually "donate" by buying more ff titles just for this game to grow. They dont need money, they need time.
    And if you dont have time for that, well, thats your own problem.

    Making a singleplayer part would take about 2 years, are you ready to wait for that? no? didnt think do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Medura View Post
    "allow SE to hire more ppl"

    have you ever coded anything in your life?

    more people != quality
    more people = more memory leak
    more people = more discussion
    more people = more time used on not programming.

    also, if they wanted money, they wpould make it p2p, but they get LOTS of money from their other games at the same time. People also atually "donate" by buying more ff titles just for this game to grow. They dont need money, they need time.
    And if you dont have time for that, well, thats your own problem.

    Making a singleplayer part would take about 2 years, are you ready to wait for that? no? didnt think do.
    why would it take 2 years? Everythings in the game already. All they have to do is make a few new zones and some cutscenes. Shouldn't take more than 1 year. And it would make a great first expansion along with some new multiplayer stuff. It would let them re-launch the game to an entirely new audience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azurymber View Post
    why would it take 2 years? Everythings in the game already. All they have to do is make a few new zones and some cutscenes. Shouldn't take more than 1 year. And it would make a great first expansion along with some new multiplayer stuff. It would let them re-launch the game to an entirely new audience.
    Can I get your CV? my company sure will be interested to hire such briliant project manager like yours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aion View Post
    Can I get your CV? my company sure will be interested to hire such briliant project manager like yours.
    I charge a $400 an hour consultancy fee.... i run a marketing firm lol.

    rather than attack me why don't you argue it.
    This game has a battle system
    it has gear
    it has player models
    it has enemy models

    All they would have to do is to create cutscenes.
    Create a few new zones (which they seem to be able to do in 2-4 months given they are releasing 3 new zones this patch)
    and create the story which is really just npc text.

    so explain how those few things take 2 years?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azurymber View Post
    I charge a $400 an hour consultancy fee.... i run a marketing firm lol.

    rather than attack me why don't you argue it.
    This game has a battle system
    it has gear
    it has player models
    it has enemy models

    All they would have to do is to create cutscenes.
    Create a few new zones (which they seem to be able to do in 2-4 months given they are releasing 3 new zones this patch)
    and create the story which is really just npc text.

    so explain how those few things take 2 years?
    They fixing battle system,add job system,rebalancing item/materia system,redesign map.or do you want the solo version is the Tanaka's one?
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