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    Quote Originally Posted by Azurymber View Post
    no it did not
    and also there was almost no competition at the time so even though ffxi had a rocky start there was no other alternatives.
    By the time zilart came out a year-ish after release FFXI was great.
    and then COP took it to a whole new level.

    But FFXI relied on NA PC release for a huge population boost and then ps2 and xbox releases for huge boosts.

    This game has ONE more chance. ps3 release. And PS3 has lost a lot of ppl cuz of the whole network failure thing and now forcing ppl to say they wont sue.

    Further FFXI had fresh reviews which were -very- positive on NA release. This game will -never- get fresh reviews. Its 5.0ish average will haunt it for years, especially on the meta-review sites that average out all the reviews.
    the xiv now, got more players than the xi then (one year old) had. The game got about double he population afterr the last patch. It might even double again after the next one. No matter where you go you always will see people, you can always join a random party. If your in uldah, not 10 minutes goes without someone shouting for grind party.

    if you say this is because its f2p then something must be wrong with your head. People dont play a game BECAUSE its f2p.
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    I dont think the PS3 lost alot of people...and you cant really sue Sony for anything related to that since I dont think any personal information was actually stolen. Or at least I havent seen any huge drops from MP titles.
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    Thanks for assuming everyone has the same opinion as you and flipping out when someone disagrees.

    P.S. You are crazy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Estellios View Post
    Thanks for assuming everyone has the same opinion as you and flipping out when someone disagrees.

    P.S. You are crazy.
    nothing in this thread is about opinion.

    Its a marketing fact that if you can sell a product to more than one "target market" you make more money.
    If coke can sell coca cola, and then no-name cola, they make a lot more money than if they just sold coke.

    Similarly if this game appealed to TWO different groups of players (MMO players and normal RPG players) It would make significantly more profit.

    It is also a fact that most of the game is already single player suggesting that the code to make a single-player part of the game is already available.

    Thus SE has a low-cost way of possibly doubling the games population and increating their profits.

    this "single player" part would not effect MMO players very much so saying "we dont like single player stuff" is irrelevant.

    So the argument only centers around whether or not SE could turn a profit by doing it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Estellios View Post
    Thanks for assuming everyone has the same opinion as you and flipping out when someone disagrees.

    P.S. You are crazy.
    Even if you agree with Azury they will still argue with you just because.
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    If there isnt people shouting for party/doing raid/chatting in LS then I considered this game is fail. But I think it is not atm, at least in Wutai. Let SE who worry on getting new player,while we enjoying our time in Eorzea...with people that playing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aion View Post
    If there isnt people shouting for party/doing raid/chatting in LS then I considered this game is fail. But I think it is not atm, at least in Wutai. Let SE who worry on getting new player,while we enjoying our time in Eorzea...with people that playing.
    SE is a corporation
    a Corporation MUST seek profits under the law since they are responsible to shareholders
    If a product is operating at a loss it is a failure for the time being
    If that product can be turned around and become profitable it is a success

    This game has run a year without profit. that means profits will have to make up for paying 100+ employees for a year or more. Until that happens the game is a failure because it has failed to turn a profit which is the sole goal of creating a product.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azurymber View Post
    SE is a corporation
    a Corporation MUST seek profits under the law since they are responsible to shareholders
    If a product is operating at a loss it is a failure for the time being
    If that product can be turned around and become profitable it is a success

    This game has run a year without profit. that means profits will have to make up for paying 100+ employees for a year or more. Until that happens the game is a failure because it has failed to turn a profit which is the sole goal of creating a product.
    This game is suffer from failed lauch. Do the shareholder want same mistake happen again? SE didnt charge player as an apology and as chance to get beta-tester for their upcoming PS3 release. Is it that hard to understand?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aion View Post
    This game is suffer from failed lauch. Do the shareholder want same mistake happen again? SE didnt charge player as an apology and as chance to get beta-tester for their upcoming PS3 release. Is it that hard to understand?
    Thus making the game a financial failure and failure in general FOR THE TIME BEING.
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