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  1. #1
    Player
    Bovinity's Avatar
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    Bovinity Divinity
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    Exodus
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by UncleCarmine View Post
    On the topic? I don't know, maybe talk to them like adults and if they're not interested in speedrunning the dungeon then accept that i'm going to take maybe 10-20 minutes more? I don't know, just seems like "This player isn't playing how I want them to? BOOT THEM" seems like a really, really warped viewpoint.
    Yeah, I don't see how people can go into a Duty Finder group and expect some kind of speedrun every time.

    Not to mention that half the crap people do to try to "speed up the run" ends up actually costing more time in the end, but they can't get past the idea of "big pull = fast".
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    spelley's Avatar
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    Light Seeker
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    Behemoth
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    Lancer Lv 67
    Quote Originally Posted by Bovinity View Post
    Yeah, I don't see how people can go into a Duty Finder group and expect some kind of speedrun every time.

    Not to mention that half the crap people do to try to "speed up the run" ends up actually costing more time in the end, but they can't get past the idea of "big pull = fast".
    Those big pulls with an AST as your healer and a NIN and a MNK as your DPSes, "but I'm making things faster!" Kappa
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    Subucnimorning's Avatar
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    Blue Lightt
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    Behemoth
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    Dragoon Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by spelley View Post
    Those big pulls with an AST as your healer and a NIN and a MNK as your DPSes, "but I'm making things faster!" Kappa
    It still makes it faster even with NIN as your dps, MNK aoe dps is decent now also. As long as you aren't wiping the group it is faster.
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    Zari's Avatar
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    Zari Lutus
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    People here keep assuming the tank always has a reason. If they have a reason like waiting for TP or healer MP and such then that is perfectly fine.

    But there are also plenty of tanks that just stand there for seemingly no reason. Those are the ones that upset me
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    Zari Lutus
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Also: (sorry on mobile so cant edit my previous post for some reason)

    I dont think when people say "slow tanks" they necessarily mean ones that are not speedrunning. I could care less if a tank is speedrunning or not as long as they arent spending a full minute between trash pulls for no reason
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    Seku's Avatar
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    Seku Halvone
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 90
    Never had a problem on resources(tp,mp, ect) as a tank. Healer does sometime, when they get down to about 3k. I normally stop and make sure they've got some means to recover it. But most of the time their helping DPS. ;x
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    Yorumi Eienyuki
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    Ultros
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    Red Mage Lv 77
    I think speed running is strawmanning here. The OP isn't talking about speed running, just constant pulling. I don't like speed running myself but I also don't like sitting around for 45 seconds between each pull staring at the skybox. When one pack of mobs dies the tank should be running to the next unless there's some reason not to. Same for a boss, when everyone is at the line pull it.
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    Arkenne's Avatar
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    Aiot O'lein
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    Cactuar
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    Rogue Lv 80
    I know people don't like waiting for too long so I try to keep up the pace when I am tanking, but come on, some guys can't wait even 10 seconds >:|!!

    Worse is with the frigging bees in Neverreap, the second batch, if not careful you pull the tree as well and the tree is a trap for the bees to sting you because all the DPS first go for the tree for some reason so I try NOT to pull the tree... aaand there goes a DPS in a hurry to rush and rush and pulls the tree before I even catch the bees... :|
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    AkashiXI's Avatar
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    Akashi Mousai
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    Adamantoise
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    Archer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Arkenne View Post
    I know people don't like waiting for too long so I try to keep up the pace when I am tanking, but come on, some guys can't wait even 10 seconds >:|!!

    Worse is with the frigging bees in Neverreap, the second batch, if not careful you pull the tree as well and the tree is a trap for the bees to sting you because all the DPS first go for the tree for some reason so I try NOT to pull the tree... aaand there goes a DPS in a hurry to rush and rush and pulls the tree before I even catch the bees... :|
    NOT THE BEES!!!!

    Wait...*rereads*

    NOT THE TREE!!!
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    spelley's Avatar
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    Light Seeker
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    Behemoth
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    Lancer Lv 67
    Every *smart* tank I know just does the first batch of bees first, then pulls second set because 4 Final Stings lololololol. One of those cases of "big pull, must be a good idea and faster right?"
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